[methodtim]

Originally Posted by mbmbm&w

Gosh, I still have fantasies about cops pulling me over just for fun. Flashing lights, the night stick, shiny black boots, the mirrored glasses, you know - the whole uniform thing. "OK, out of the car, up against the hood . . . " You think I'd be over it by now.

Oh, wait. I reread the post and I think we're talking about different things here. Never mind.

Pow chica wow wow...

[MontegoGoGoGo]

<Random Ticket Story>

First ticket I ever got was when I was 16 in a BMW. I was just rocking out to music driving around la la la la, turns out the cop had been following me with his lights on for about two miles and I had no clue.

I don't think he believed me that I really didn't see him behind me.

He was pissed.

I got a ticket.

Haven't received a ticket in quite some time, I'm expecting one soon though with the new car.

If you treat people with respect and don't feel that you're automatically better than someone - usually you will get the same respect in return. Just don't be a dick.

Why do I always say thank you when they give me a ticket? WTF?

[JSpira]

Originally Posted by GMT II

Your glove box should have registration,

I am not in a position to comment on the rest of your advice but the above is wrong.

You should NEVER leave your registration in your glove compartment. This is something that multiple law enfocement agencies specifically recommend AGAINST.

[Aurora Bearialis]

Originally Posted by MontegoGoGoGo

<Random Ticket Story>

First ticket I ever got was when I was 16 in a BMW. I was just rocking out to music driving around la la la la, turns out the cop had been following me with his lights on for about two miles and I had no clue.

I don't think he believed me that I really didn't see him behind me.

He was pissed.

I got a ticket.

Haven't received a ticket in quite some time, I'm expecting one soon though with the new car.

If you treat people with respect and don't feel that you're automatically better than someone - usually you will get the same respect in return. Just don't be a dick.

Why do I always say thank you when they give me a ticket? WTF?

So you are expecting a ticket?

[Chriz3586]

so here in germany there are 2 ways to get treated as a young guy (i'm 22, got my e92 with 21)

possibility 1:
older cops usually don't stop you, because they think you've got wealthy parents and that you are well raised and enjoy a good education and don't drink and drive and such stuff

possibility 2:
younger cops are mostly pretty jealous, so they just do it to annoy you

so that's what i've experienced

[JSpira]

Originally Posted by Chriz3586

so here in germany there are 2 ways to get treated as a young guy (i'm 22, got my e92 with 21)

possibility 1:
older cops usually don't stop you, because they think you've got wealthy parents and that you are well raised and enjoy a good education and don't drink and drive and such stuff

possibility 2:
younger cops are mostly pretty jealous, so they just do it to annoy you

so that's what i've experienced

Also, in general, the police in Germany and Austria tend to be better educated and on less of a power trip than the typical patrolman in the U.S.

[bimmerbimmer]

Originally Posted by JSpira

I am not in a position to comment on the rest of your advice but the above is wrong.

You should NEVER leave your registration in your glove compartment. This is something that multiple law enfocement agencies specifically recommend AGAINST.

Jon, I concur with you.

[Chriz3586]

Originally Posted by JSpira

Also, in general, the police in Germany and Austria tend to be better educated and on less of a power trip than the typical patrolman in the U.S.

i can't judge the education aspect, but i'm sure there are enough german cops who love to use their position of power...
well, i'm not sure, i know it, coz i've got 3 friends who are cops themselves and i've heard stories...you wouldn't even believe me

[mwarsh1]

instead of putting your hands on the steering wheel, you should leave them hanging ou the window, so they see them as they are walking to your car, this shows them you have no weapon, and this puts them at ease.

[seej333]

Originally Posted by JSpira

You should NEVER leave your registration in your glove compartment. This is something that multiple law enfocement agencies specifically recommend AGAINST.

Do you mean your title? You're required to have your vehicle registration in your vehicle if stopped here in the states. $124 fine if you don't. I often deal with people that leave their TITLE in their cars and they realize how stupid it was when their vehicle is stolen. Also you can't enter your vehicle stolen if you fail to register it in your name and the title is elsewhere...like in the missing car.

[TwinTurboXI]

Originally Posted by seej333

Do you mean your title? You're required to have your vehicle registration in your vehicle if stopped here in the states. $124 fine if you don't.

I think what he means is dont carry it in your glove box. But DO carry elsewhere in your car or in your wallet

[Seminole]

Originally Posted by TwinTurboXI

I think what he means is dont carry it in your glove box. But DO carry elsewhere in your car or in your wallet

+1

Just keep the thing in your wallet. God forbid someone does break into your car and steals it, at least they won't have the registration telling them who you are and where your house is.

[Chriz3586]

Originally Posted by mwarsh1

instead of putting your hands on the steering wheel, you should leave them hanging ou the window, so they see them as they are walking to your car, this shows them you have no weapon, and this puts them at ease.

is it usual that cops think everybodys got a gun in his car?

[J2]

I got pulled over a lot when I still had my 350Z... but thats expected. 16 year old driving a Blue 350Z, tinted windows, and 19" Gold rims... I've been pulled over countless times in that car... One time I was asked if I stole the car...

Now that I got the 335i its a lot more lowkey than my 350z... Still havent been pulled over yet (knock on wood)

[JSpira]

Originally Posted by seej333

Do you mean your title?

No I mean the registration. But yes, it would be even MORE stupid to carry the title!

[dmurray14]

Originally Posted by GMT II

Try to minimize the way your car stands out (to a point).
...

Agree with everything you wrote. I am in my 20's. I picked up my car about a month ago. Just before, I was at a work-sponsored dinner and happened to be sitting at a table talking to the spouse of a coworker of mine who is a sargent in my area. I asked him the usual "how do you avoid tickets" and his answer was simply to be honest and upfront. He said out of all the people he pulls over, he is most lenient and understanding of those who treat him like a normal person and don't feed him BS stories (which he has invariably heard before). He's just a normal guy after 5pm, and so is everyone else on the force.

Having said that, a few days later I was driving my new car home. I had a feeling I was going to get pulled over on the way home (not even speeding, just my "great" luck), and sure enough about 30 minutes from the dealer I was. Pulled way over, vehicle off, and hands on the wheel. Officer asked why I thought he had pulled me over. "Sir, I was probably speeding back there." Correct, 82 in a 65. Why were you speeding? "To be completely honest, I was following the traffic and was trying to program the navigation system to get me home. Was not paying attention to my speed at all" How long have you had the vehicle? "30 minutes or so." How is your record? "Clean sir." Have a nice day, and try to pay attention.

Now you will read countless suggestions on what to say to cops. "Never admit guilt." "Short answers and don't give anything up." "Don't let them know any more than they need to." Now, I'm not suggesting you give yourself up right away, but I honestly believe that if you are honest and cool with them, and you treat them like you would a friend or a neighbor, you'll get a lot more respect. It may not get you out of the ticket, but if it doesn't, you were going to get it anyway. Fight it in court. I would imagine that the vast majority of the time, however, officers will be happy to be treated with respect. And frankly, in most cases, it is well deserved. Do a ridealong, their job isn't as easy as you may think, and there are a lot of unknowns in pulling someone over. Anything you can do to make them more comfortable should only benefit you in the end.

Dan

[MontegoGoGoGo]

Originally Posted by rameal999

So you are expecting a ticket?

Haha, I'm not HOPING for one! I think we can all agree that the urge to drive it like you mean it is hard to fight. Guess it all depends on luck whether or not you get caught.

I know the my first drive in my new car was a fast one.

[ideliver]

no joke....i got ticketed for 72 in a 65...4:30 pm, clear day, light traffic, dry roads...clean driving record...I plead not guilty and my pre-trial is in March...hopefully the prosecutor will reduce to a no points, non-moving violation...

[Mk23]

Originally Posted by damadama

If said drug dealer isnt breaking the law i see no reason to pull over based on "suspicion" thats effing BS.

Drug dealers serve their purpose in this country, and anyone that believes the war on drugs is ever going to be won is sadly mistaken... Most people using drugs socially are not criminals, and if you drink alcohol or smoke cigs or take prescription anxiety meds you are just as much a drug user as someone who wants to smoke a joint at the end of the day :P

That being said 1 drug dealer off the street probably isn't anything that will disrupt the supply for the long term and as far as benefiting the public... just keep telling yourself that, mr holier than thou. Had a friend who went to JAIL for half a year after getting puled over and illegally searched by some d-bag cop in bumf*ck texas and they found a bag of mushrooms.... they made it a front page news article with some bullshit quote from the cop explaining how he was keeping dangerous criminals off the streets.

As far as cops pulling over kids in BMWs, the only times I have been pulled over the cop deff had no idea as to what my age was. I've never had a cop spot me, make some angry face at me then follow me and pull me over or something... that isn't to say they aren't going to have a different attitude about the whole situation when they get up to your window and you aren't the average middle-aged bmw driver. Some cops are going to call you "son" and try to feed their ego and probably try to humiliate you a bit, but most of them seem OK just try to mind your P's-n-Q's and you will be ok. To avoid tickets you need to avoid saying stupid shit like "oh i didn't realize I was going that fast...", orly? well cop hands u ur ticket... theres ur reminder.

...

Drugs are illegal... hence being a criminal if you do them at all...

Are you a drug dealer?

[mpimping]

probably because you are speeding

[TiAg335i]

Originally Posted by dmurray14

Agree with everything you wrote. I am in my 20's. I picked up my car about a month ago. Just before, I was at a work-sponsored dinner and happened to be sitting at a table talking to the spouse of a coworker of mine who is a sargent in my area. I asked him the usual "how do you avoid tickets" and his answer was simply to be honest and upfront. He said out of all the people he pulls over, he is most lenient and understanding of those who treat him like a normal person and don't feed him BS stories (which he has invariably heard before). He's just a normal guy after 5pm, and so is everyone else on the force.

Having said that, a few days later I was driving my new car home. I had a feeling I was going to get pulled over on the way home (not even speeding, just my "great" luck), and sure enough about 30 minutes from the dealer I was. Pulled way over, vehicle off, and hands on the wheel. Officer asked why I thought he had pulled me over. "Sir, I was probably speeding back there." Correct, 82 in a 65. Why were you speeding? "To be completely honest, I was following the traffic and was trying to program the navigation system to get me home. Was not paying attention to my speed at all" How long have you had the vehicle? "30 minutes or so." How is your record? "Clean sir." Have a nice day, and try to pay attention.

Now you will read countless suggestions on what to say to cops. "Never admit guilt." "Short answers and don't give anything up." "Don't let them know any more than they need to." Now, I'm not suggesting you give yourself up right away, but I honestly believe that if you are honest and cool with them, and you treat them like you would a friend or a neighbor, you'll get a lot more respect. It may not get you out of the ticket, but if it doesn't, you were going to get it anyway. Fight it in court. I would imagine that the vast majority of the time, however, officers will be happy to be treated with respect. And frankly, in most cases, it is well deserved. Do a ridealong, their job isn't as easy as you may think, and there are a lot of unknowns in pulling someone over. Anything you can do to make them more comfortable should only benefit you in the end.

Dan

Just luck on your part.

Being honest is only going to get you so far. If you clearly blow through a stop sign, you blew through a stop sign. Same goes for speeding.

[e92leon]

i got pulled 3 times on figueroa in december