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      02-21-2024, 04:01 PM   #23
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Considering having more money would make you live longer there would be a crossover where snapping at first would make you live longer because the 100k coild buy a month of health and extra life.

Where that crosses back is the real question... Or for some if they have already achieved enough wealth to where they already have.
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      02-21-2024, 04:16 PM   #24
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I assume I am one of the more active young posters on this forum. Possibly even half the average age, were that data to be tracked.

Given my nature to plan, I would sit down and conduct a thorough analysis. After 5 instant snaps, however. The starting point in my eyes would begin from there and whether any more snaps are tangible or conducive to a better quality of life.


On another note, I partially reject the appeal to emotion argument Esteban brings up.
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      02-21-2024, 04:27 PM   #25
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On another note, I partially reject the appeal to emotion argument Esteban brings up.
We're emotional beings and I'm just a romantic at heart.
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      02-21-2024, 04:42 PM   #26
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….by God (…or your chosen deity) to snap your fingers and net $100,000 per snap, but the caveat was every snap took a month off of your life….

…would you snap? If so, how many times would you effectively roll the dice knowing a snap could potentially end your life immediately if you unknowingly had less than a month to live?
I'd snap more times if the benefit wasn't $100K, but 10 minutes each time talking to my younger self. I'd be snappy my ass off.
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      02-21-2024, 05:25 PM   #27
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Considering human nature and how most people who suddenly come into a lot of money act... my bet is once people start snapping they wouldn't be able to stop until it is too late, because it is too easy.

"Just one more snap"
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      02-21-2024, 05:56 PM   #28
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I am not materialistic, nor do I not want to live as long as possible, but If I can have this with 4 snaps (for the tax and some gear).. snap, snap, snap, snap....
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Unless you die instantly in some freak accident the last few months of life are not typically very good. At least from my personal experience having seen people die of old age and terminal illnesses.... I'd probably snap a few times just to avoid those last months... don't even need the money.
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I am not materialistic, nor do I not want to live as long as possible, but If I can have this with 4 snaps (for the tax and some gear).. snap, snap, snap, snap....
Double your snaps and buy me one brother
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      02-21-2024, 07:11 PM   #31
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How about the converse question, like many of the ads I keep seeing for cancer treatment? in that situation, would you pay 50-100k for an extra month of cancer??? They use comparisons that their patients lasted 12-14 months, while control group lasted 10-12.

Me, I'm snapping a few fingers. Watching my dad die 2 years ago, he would want to put more in the estate. I can only do the same for my boys.
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$100K for a month? My 401(k) doesn't have those kind of returns! Just saying.

As someone who was sent home from the regional trauma center to die back in 2016, my entire focus ever since has been to ensure that my DW will be financially supported after I take my final checkered flag...whenever that happens.....
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      02-22-2024, 11:52 AM   #33
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I'd snap more times if the benefit wasn't $100K, but 10 minutes each time talking to my younger self. I'd be snappy my ass off.
I wonder if my younger self would listen.... He might say "If you know so much why would you need to try to change yourself"

This is much like a financial adviser where I would ask, "If you know so much then why do you need my money to invest? Shouldn't you have already made so much money investing your own?"

How much younger would you dare go to de-risk that? I would certainly need to go no younger than 18 or so and perhaps 20 would be smarter.
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We're all gonna kick the bucket at some point. I do 12 snaps. If I die a year early, oh well. Won't affect me once I'm in the ground.
this was right along the lines of my thinking... 1.2M would really make things easier lol and a year is a year
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      02-22-2024, 01:44 PM   #35
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I wonder if my younger self would listen.... He might say "If you know so much why would you need to try to change yourself"
This isn't a good argument. Everyone can benefit from hindsight.


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This is much like a financial adviser where I would ask, "If you know so much then why do you need my money to invest? Shouldn't you have already made so much money investing your own?"
This is also a bad argument. You can never know anyone's true motivation to do anything, all you can do is observe and assume.

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How much younger would you dare go to de-risk that? I would certainly need to go no younger than 18 or so and perhaps 20 would be smarter.
IMO I spent too much of my youth on small stones, and would have loved to have hindsight as a reminder on what to spend my time on. I think I was quite the thinker at 18, so that'd do it.
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Great question/topic.

For *me*, it's a no-brainer, we're 'only' talking about 1 month, I'd definitely be snapping a few times. We are virtually all slaves to this fake concept called 'money' so to be financially-independent is the goal unless ppl wanna start a real revolution. Other fake things like 'inflation' is what is used to keep the common man(+woman) down so to be impervious to that stupidity by having 'gazillions' would be great. Anyway, I digress.


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Would anybody’s opinion(s) change if, say, the dollar amount per snap was $500,000?
Same # of snaps as the $$$ is even better. I think a better question is what if it's 1 year now instead of 1 mth? That would give ppl pause.


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I'd snap more times if the benefit wasn't $100K, but 10 minutes each time talking to my younger self. I'd be snappy my ass off.
Ditto. Man, the things I'd say to the younger tranquility, e.g.:
.cherish your family members and choose your friends better
.work on your languages
.get better at guitar
.invest in the various skyrocketing stocks
.don't mess around w the brick near that toad
.etc
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[QUOTE=///MPhatic;30925933]This isn't a good argument. Everyone can benefit from hindsight.
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Sure everyone could benefit from hindsight. Just because the advice is coming from a future self doesn't really make it any more likely that someone would listen vs a parent, respected elder, etc. I just bet that many of our younger selves wouldn't listen.

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This is also a bad argument. You can never know anyone's true motivation to do anything, all you can do is observe and assume.
There are surely altruistic people in the financial world the point is that most aren't nearly as good at it as they say (most are worse than random and definitely worse than index investing) and if they were they would just be wealthy and not doing the job of financial adviser. It is possible, I just haven't met these people (other than the head of the firm) and they aren't available on most people's speed dial.

At any rate your past self isn't you anyway in time travel from the instant you arrive so is all much more complicated than it seems. I guess we can make up our own rules to say that it is you and your impacts will also directly carry into your future self for the sake of argument. At any rate it is all hypothetical.

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Just because the advice is coming from a future self doesn't really make it any more likely that someone would listen vs a parent, respected elder, etc.
I patently disagree. In fact, I think everyone would be more likely to listen to their future selves than anyone else on the basis that they would know without a doubt that their future self had "been there, done that" under exact circumstances with the exact same feelings.


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At any rate your past self isn't you anyway in time travel from the instant you arrive so is all much more complicated than it seems.
I'm going to stop you right there as well. Time travel (backwards) isn't even possible in theory, so let us not talk as if we know the rules of such a thing.

My point was that focused advice from my future self would be worth much more to me than money, and I haven't changed my opinion on that.
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Think about it... time alive for money? I do not think anyone should SNAP for anything.

Because GOD is the only one who knows when our time must come. Ultimately, even if we where in pain and/or unable to take care of ourselfs, even a conversation with someone could be the reason to remain alive and make a positive impact, or to help someone, or to obtain some needed forgiveness.

So... Devil, stop it, I know that BMW M8 is sexy and damn fast but it will come to my garage only if GOD sees fit.
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Think about it... time alive for money? I do not think anyone should SNAP for anything.

Because GOD is the only one who knows when our time must come. Ultimately, even if we where in pain and/or unable to take care of ourselfs, even a conversation with someone could be the reason to remain alive and make a positive impact, or to help someone, or to obtain some needed forgiveness.

So... Devil, stop it, I know that BMW M8 is sexy and damn fast but it will come to my garage only if GOD sees fit.
The hypothetical already asserts that it is God who grants the “snap” and your date of death is already known to God. The date isn’t known to you, hence the risk.
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