Review - G87 LCI 473hp Flash by Alex@Alpine

M_Power Rob · 09-10-2024, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

How could Alex flash the stock 2025 file on your locked 2024 DME?

The issue with flashing these cars is not that the files you are loading are restricted but that the DME is locked.

Someone should tell Alex to chime in on this; it's very interesting.

This 100%

tubingchamp · 09-10-2024, 05:09 PM

subscribed AF Lol

Dave07997S · 09-11-2024, 04:51 PM

Still no answer from Alex

M_Power Rob · 09-11-2024, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave07997S

Still no answer from Alex

Nor the OP...

e90ftw · 09-11-2024, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

How could Alex flash the stock 2025 file on your locked 2024 DME?

The issue with flashing these cars is not that the files you are loading are restricted but that the DME is locked.

Someone should tell Alex to chime in on this; it's very interesting.

From what I understand, this is only possible due to the fact that the 2025 M2 file is not protected by a FSC. It’s also an original file signed by BMW. Therefore no DME unlock is required.

You could in theory flash the stock file from an M4 CSL to the M2, but you would end up in limp mode due to a missing FSC.

Alex@Alpine · 09-11-2024, 10:53 PM

Yes, this is possible. I have done a handful so far.

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Originally Posted by Dave07997S

Still no answer from Alex

I have no email from you.

Dave07997S · 09-11-2024, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex@Alpine

Yes, this is possible. I have done a handful so far.

I have no email from you.

I sent it direct message from your website and also your facebook account. Its good to see you still around...I remember you from the Roadfly days!!! I will also send you an email.

mike@x-ph.com · 09-12-2024, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex@Alpine

Yes, this is possible. I have done a handful so far.

I have no email from you.

Please share more details on this; this is the first time I have heard of it, and that's fantastic news if true. Im also interested on which other models it applies to and what is needed

tubingchamp · 09-12-2024, 11:36 AM

Would something like this need to be re-applied after the OTA software updates / dealer visits?

e90ftw · 09-12-2024, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tubingchamp

Would something like this need to be re-applied after the OTA software updates / dealer visits?

Yup

M_Power Rob · 09-12-2024, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex@Alpine

Yes, this is possible. I have done a handful so far.

I have no email from you.

Maybe I am totally missing something but this still sounds off. What is being "modified" to update the maps for hp & torque?

Montaver · 09-12-2024, 02:51 PM

Very curious about this. Why did BMW release the file unlocked? This seems contrary to everything they’ve done to prevent tuning since midway in the f8x gen. If it’s as simple as flashing on an actual BMW file this will be very appealing to a lot of owners.

tubingchamp · 09-12-2024, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Montaver

Very curious about this. Why did BMW release the file unlocked? This seems contrary to everything they’ve done to prevent tuning since midway in the f8x gen. If it’s as simple as flashing on an actual BMW file this will be very appealing to a lot of owners.

I'm here for it, ESPECIALLY if they offer it at a dealer (way too wishful thinking, but who knows)

RandomBro · 09-12-2024, 08:23 PM

Ok, now I'm curious what is the cost to get all the CSL and 2025 ECU flashes done.

Dave07997S · 09-12-2024, 10:10 PM

Alex contacted me, it seems since its is an OEM file it can be uploaded into the DME. The dealer if they wanted to can see it is an external flash done outside the dealer. However, it is much cheaper than a tune or a piggy back with an OEM file. Yes its not as aggressive but still a win in my book.

aerobod · 09-12-2024, 10:20 PM

Some discussion on why it works specifically for the 2025 M2 XCF file being loaded on earlier models in this thread: https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2128797,
specifically the info in this post: https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...0&postcount=31

turo · 09-13-2024, 08:50 AM

But if the dealer can see that the vehicle was flashed outside, they could void your warranty, which would be the main reason (IMO) of going this route vs aftermarket.

Alex@Alpine · 09-13-2024, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Please share more details on this; this is the first time I have heard of it, and that's fantastic news if true. Im also interested on which other models it applies to and what is needed

Possible on both automatic and manual versions of the US 2024 m4 (and 2023/2024 European models.)

I believe an FSC block wasn’t put into place because the car remains a non comp/CS/CSL/GTS version.

Highly unlikely, but maybe they’ll release it with an update to the older cars.

Carefree · 09-13-2024, 11:29 AM

Not sure all the risk and potential consequences are worth a crummy 20hp.

I’ll stand pat, don’t need another card.

Xeon555 · 09-13-2024, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

How could Alex flash the stock 2025 file on your locked 2024 DME?

The issue with flashing these cars is not that the files you are loading are restricted but that the DME is locked.

Someone should tell Alex to chime in on this; it's very interesting.

I agree something doesn't seem right

Mr. Hankey · 09-14-2024, 11:10 AM

I can 100% vouch for Alex@alpine. If he says it works, it works. Worked with him on my F80 quite a bit (Hi Alex! Hope you're doing well brother), wonderful to work with.

BroDoze · 09-14-2024, 11:21 AM

Wrong thread

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Montaver Lieutenant Colonel 2740 Rep 1,877 Posts Drives: M340i LCI Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Very curious about this. Why did BMW release the file unlocked? This seems contrary to everything they’ve done to prevent tuning since midway in the f8x gen. If it’s as simple as flashing on an actual BMW file this will be very appealing to a lot of owners.
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Dave07997S Brigadier General 1308 Rep 4,369 Posts Drives: 2024 BMW M2 Toronto Red 6MT Join Date: May 2009 Location: El Segundo, CA iTrader: (1)	Alex contacted me, it seems since its is an OEM file it can be uploaded into the DME. The dealer if they wanted to can see it is an external flash done outside the dealer. However, it is much cheaper than a tune or a piggy back with an OEM file. Yes its not as aggressive but still a win in my book. __________________ 2024 BMW M2 Toronto Red 6MT (Sold) 2020 Ford Mustang GT 6MT PP1 444rwhp 2013 M3 Coupe-MR/BLK ZCP, 2011 M3 Coupe-MR/Blk 2007 Porsche 997C2S Speed Yellow/Blk sport seats 2004 BMW M3 Imola/Blk, 2001 BMW M3
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