[AZG87]

PPF + ceramic coating here. Hand wash only.

[Ronin76]

Welp the peeps have spoken. Guess I will be watching some YouTube videos and buying some supplies.

Any suggestions and brands of items I will need?

[two_three_two]

i re-up my ceramic on an annual basis. in the shitty cold months i use a local hand wash place. it comes out OK with minimal microswirling.

in the nice warm months i use carpro products, a pressure washer, foam cannon, and a ryobi battery hand dryer. the results are much better this way, no doubt. as spaceghost said its really up to your personal level of tolerance for imperfections, how much time you can commit, and where you store your car.

[kenkamm]

I've never had PPF come off, in any automated car wash, touchless or otherwise.

[Good 4 2 reasons]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

Welp the peeps have spoken. Guess I will be watching some YouTube videos and buying some supplies.

Any suggestions and brands of items I will need?

You don't have to buy his products, or his recommendation, but I like Pan the organizer on youtube. His techniques are well demonstrated and he has a video covering any kind of car cleaning you could want to perform. He's selling his own products now, but in the past he has worked with any number of great products.

With car care products, just set a budget for what you want to spend. You can go cheap with Chemical Guys and typical walmart brands, you can go midgrade with griots and adams, then you have the more expensive brands like Gyeon, Koch Chemie, etc.

I'm sure to each their own on what brand they like to use, if you're handwashing your car, you are already doing better than most drivers out there, present company excluded.

I will say a huge benefit to avoiding swirls in your paint would be to use a blower to dry instead of toweling.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by Good 4 2 reasons

You don't have to buy his products, or his recommendation, but I like Pan the organizer on youtube. His techniques are well demonstrated and he has a video covering any kind of car cleaning you could want to perform. He's selling his own products now, but in the past he has worked with any number of great products.

With car care products, just set a budget for what you want to spend. You can go cheap with Chemical Guys and typical walmart brands, you can go midgrade with griots and adams, then you have the more expensive brands like Gyeon, Koch Chemie, etc.

I'm sure to each their own on what brand they like to use, if you're handwashing your car, you are already doing better than most drivers out there, present company excluded.

I will say a huge benefit to avoiding swirls in your paint would be to use a blower to dry instead of toweling.

Thank you for this. Yeah I have a blower already that I was planning on using so I at least got that covered. Will see how it goes. I will check out the YouTube channel you mentioned as well.

[aerobod]

In the winter here it is virtually impossible to wash a car outside with few above freezing days and in the summer it is not legal to use soap to wash vehicles on a driveway unless a water recovery system is used to capture all run-off ($500 to $3,000 fine).

Using a car wash with a hand pressure wand is about the only way to avoid a fully automated car wash, but I’ve never had an issue with PPF lift.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by aerobod

In the winter here it is virtually impossible to wash a car outside with few above freezing days and in the summer it is not legal to use soap to wash vehicles on a driveway unless a water recovery system is used to capture all run-off ($500 to $3,000 fine).

Using a car wash with a hand pressure wand is about the only way to avoid a fully automated car wash, but I’ve never had an issue with PPF lift.

Yeah, that kind of surprised me too. I watch (or follow) a few YouTubers who are enthusiasts who have PPFd and ceramic coated their cars and many of them have gone to those self service carwashes and used the pressure wands. I didn’t think anything of it. They also brought the blower with them to dry the car off as well.

[Carefree]

I use Adam’s on both of our cars and very satisfied with the foam cannons and soaps. Their product support is first class as well.

Fortunately, you have a multitude of options.

[KC87ZB]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

Yeah, that kind of surprised me too. I watch (or follow) a few YouTubers who are enthusiasts who have PPFd and ceramic coated their cars and many of them have gone to those self service carwashes and used the pressure wands. I didn’t think anything of it. They also brought the blower with them to dry the car off as well.

In the winter I use a no rinse product (I like P&S Absolute Rinseless). I spray it down first with a pumpable pressure sprayer to help lift dirt from the paint then use a bucket and a no rinse sponge. If the car really ends up dirty a local wand place to remove the majority but any contact wash is with the P&S or my foam cannon.

So many choices/options out there. Really like YouTuber Pan the Organizer.

[AZG87]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

Welp the peeps have spoken. Guess I will be watching some YouTube videos and buying some supplies.

Any suggestions and brands of items I will need?

2 buckets, dirt guards, meguiars hyper wash(soap for bucket and cannon), micro fiber mitts and towels, hose/ foam cannon are the basics. But as many others have mentioned tons of options. I'd add the vossen / adams wheel cleaner as well and ammo tire cleaner as nice addons.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by AZG87

2 buckets, dirt guards, meguiars hyper wash(soap for bucket and cannon), micro fiber mitts and towels, hose/ foam cannon are the basics. But as many others have mentioned tons of options. I'd add the vossen / adams wheel cleaner as well and ammo tire cleaner as nice addons.

Thanks buddy, I appreciate it.

[ednir98]

Originally Posted by aerobod

in the summer it is not legal to use soap to wash vehicles on a driveway unless a water recovery system is used to capture all run-off ($500 to $3,000 fine).

Wow, God bless America

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by ednir98

Wow, God bless America

We are more environmentally conscious here, need to protect the water runoff into the rivers, as storm drains don't go through the water treatment plants.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by aerobod

In the winter here it is virtually impossible to wash a car outside with few above freezing days and in the summer it is not legal to use soap to wash vehicles on a driveway unless a water recovery system is used to capture all run-off ($500 to $3,000 fine).

Using a car wash with a hand pressure wand is about the only way to avoid a fully automated car wash, but I’ve never had an issue with PPF lift.

You’ll be fine after Trump makes Canada the 51st state and Trudeau gets the puck (hockey joke) out of there.

[ednir98]

Originally Posted by aerobod

We are more environmentally conscious here, need to protect the water runoff into the rivers, as storm drains don't go through the water treatment plants.

Today's wash is a tribute to your lack of freedom.

[two_three_two]

there's a ton of biodegradable/sewer friendly soaps. boating industry has been using them for years as water capture regulations tighten even in the states for marinas. p&s does some as does turtle for cars. like many in my area i am on well water, which means i am wary of what i allow to run off on my own property. de-icing chemicals are probably 100x worse than whatever is in normal car wash (which is why i only sand my walkways)

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by ednir98

Today's wash is a tribute to your lack of freedom.

I suppose when you live in one of the most polluted states in the US it doesn't really matter. I like the freedom of a clean environment: https://www.numbeo.com/pollution/com...=Houston%2C+TX

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by Carefree

You’ll be fine after Trump makes Canada the 51st state and Trudeau gets the puck (hockey joke) out of there.

I don't think Dementia Donnie even knows where Canada is

Even if he could find it on a map, he wouldn't like the outcome of adding the equivalent of another California to the Electoral College.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by aerobod

I don't think Dementia Donnie even knows where Canada is

Even if he could find it on a map, he wouldn't like the outcome of adding the equivalent of another California to the Electoral College.

The guy we have now can’t find his way out of the bathroom.

If you’ll “pardon” my joke.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by Carefree

The guy we have now can’t find his way out of the bathroom.

If you’ll “pardon” my joke.

Good luck with the next Geriatric! Maybe best to put in an age limit to avoid those in mental decline from leading the country

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by aerobod

Good luck with the next Geriatric! Maybe best to put in an age limit to avoid those in mental decline from leading the country

I agree with you on aging leaders. I’d love to see a balance between wisdom and idealistic inexperience.

Unfortunately the governments we elect are the governments we deserve. Sigh……

Back to ceramic coating.