[lucas.kent]

Originally Posted by dr.jay

I dislike the Captain very much, I really cant pinpoint why. I dont know if its his goofy beard combined with his fat fucking jowl or his little ass teeth or how he is a open mouth breather, maybe its a combination of all 3. And now I find out the slob eats burgers and makes the crew eat like rabbits?? Fuck him....

Ha ha ha ha. Open mouth breather - so true.

[lucas.kent]

Not to revive a dead thread, but there's some recent news...

SYDNEY - The high-tech anti-whaling boat damaged in a collision with a Japanese whaler sank off Antarctica on Friday, but posed no threat to the pristine environment, a conservation group said.

The bow of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society's Ady Gil was sheared off Wednesday in a collision with a far larger Japanese whaling ship, in the most serious clash in what has become an annual confrontation off the frozen continent.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34744324...d_environment/

Here's a YouTube video:

[DrockNJ]

i just want to ride around in this bad ass thing...

[jeremyc74]

I'd have a lot more respect for this guy if he'd just go ahead and take out one of the harpoon boats with a torpedo. Fuck all this non-violence. There's no good reason to shoot a whale these days. If you're going to stand up against something, do it right!

[choicez]

i can't wait for this season. i'm sure this confrontation will be the highlight!

[Blake]

Originally Posted by choicez

i can't wait for this season. i'm sure this confrontation will be the highlight!

in the final episode. they'll make you watch the entire season of boring until something decent happens.

oh noes stink bombs!

[choicez]

[Peanuto]

Watch the documentary The Cove. That is what should be being done. Not what the whale wars guys are doing playing cowboys and fucking indians. That won't ever change things. To make a change you need to go to the top, and do so peacefully. They lost all credibility the second they threw the first stink bomb.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by DrockNJ

i just want to ride around in this bad ass thing...

Too late, it's gone blub, blub...
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ng-towed-.html

I admit, that thing did look like it would be fun to do something better than heckle whalers with.

[NYCGarbagePrince]

Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

lol, most of that is so full of errors I dont know where to start. Put it this way. Take humans off the planet and there is not overpopulation, pollution or destruction of resources or nuclear weapons. Take animals off the planet and humans could not survive. Hunters and fishermen as conservationist, lol. Yeah thats why people hunt and fish. That issue is too involved to discuss now.

And we are not at the top of any food chain. We are primates. Primates eat plants. Predators catch food and digest it raw. We cannot catch food naturally. We are 99% percent identical to chimps. 1% of our brain became different and now most people think they are special, lol.

All conscious life should have a choice. Bacteria has no feeling, carrots have no feeling. Animals besides humans, have emotions, feelings, thoughts, pain, etc. Why should one species life be above another in terms of thinking conscious life? If we have such great brains, then why do we commit conscious evil acts while animals only act on instinct? If we are so smart whats with all the drugs, violence and stuff that humans do on purpose? Your a primate, get over it. We just appeared on this earth from who knows where. Its not a primates job to decide what lives or dies.

Who cares what lions do in the jungle? You claim we have better brains, yet do the same thing as jungle animals while also raping and murdering our own kind?? This human ego drug has got to stop. Your a monkey, our species has only been relevant for 6k years out of 5 billion earth years. Stop thinking your better then any other conscious creature. You couldn't survive if this planet said no more air, or no more water. Your a slave to the planet, be grateful.

You are the type of person that should take off all of your clothes and go live in a cave. A complete hypocrite down to your core. Everything, every last thing, does what it CAN do. If it couldn't it would try and fail. Humans ARE superior. Why is this you ask?

Because we are capable of just about anything we put our minds to. We have won the evolutionary battle and are running away with our prize. We have moved beyond the control of nature. We are no longer a part of nature. We control the future of this planet, whether tree huggers like yourself care to realize. Everything you wear, do, and eat is because of the advancements of the people you seem to have such great disdain for. Which, like i stated earlier, makes you a hypocrite.

Our average life spans have quadrupled over the course of our history. Show me another species that has accomplished the same feat? Biology is not enough to justify your argument. What has occured with the human brain is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT EVENT IN PLANET EARTH'S HISTORY. Argue that point till you are blue in the face, but you can not compare a single life form that has ever made it's presence known on this planet to the human. Period.

Now go take a shower.

[Dan in PA]

Wait....

Does Whale Watchers = that Biggest Loser weight loss show?

[Zephyr15]

Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

lol, most of that is so full of errors I dont know where to start. Put it this way. Take humans off the planet and there is not overpopulation, pollution or destruction of resources or nuclear weapons. Take animals off the planet and humans could not survive. Hunters and fishermen as conservationist, lol. Yeah thats why people hunt and fish. That issue is too involved to discuss now.

And we are not at the top of any food chain. We are primates. Primates eat plants. Predators catch food and digest it raw. We cannot catch food naturally. We are 99% percent identical to chimps. 1% of our brain became different and now most people think they are special, lol.

All conscious life should have a choice. Bacteria has no feeling, carrots have no feeling. Animals besides humans, have emotions, feelings, thoughts, pain, etc. Why should one species life be above another in terms of thinking conscious life? If we have such great brains, then why do we commit conscious evil acts while animals only act on instinct? If we are so smart whats with all the drugs, violence and stuff that humans do on purpose? Your a primate, get over it. We just appeared on this earth from who knows where. Its not a primates job to decide what lives or dies.

Who cares what lions do in the jungle? You claim we have better brains, yet do the same thing as jungle animals while also raping and murdering our own kind?? This human ego drug has got to stop. Your a monkey, our species has only been relevant for 6k years out of 5 billion earth years. Stop thinking your better then any other conscious creature. You couldn't survive if this planet said no more air, or no more water. Your a slave to the planet, be grateful.

I'm glad this thread was revived, because it granted me the privilege of reading what may be the most astounding, nonsensical rant that I have ever seen on the internet.

[Peanuto]

The problem is not with the Japanese per se. Anyone who knows dick all about this topic would know it begins with the IWC. The International Whaling Commission. http://www.iwcoffice.org/ They set up their laws which protect only the larger species of whales. They limit killings on smaller whales for "medical research" but have no regulation on dolphins which are a smaller species of whale. The Japanese kill every whale possible within the legal bounds (which are setting the bar too high and slowly depleting populations) and then slaughter the fuck out of dolphins. Dolphins have all but disappeared in regions of japan and continue to be slaughtered daily. I am not a bleeding heart activist or a tree hugger. In fact I love to hunt and fish. A largely overlooked issue is what is happening with this dolphin meat. Dolphin meat contains levels of mercury roughly at 800x the legal limit. I forget the measurement unit but the legal level is 0.4 and dolphins have registered as 2000. They are killing the dolphins and packaging the meat as much more expensive and less toxic whale meat. In addition the dolphin fisheries in Japan have bought off entire towns to look the other way. Meanwhile they are providing the school system (until they were caught and the program was discontinued) with free lunches...guess what kind of meat. It all goes back to the top. Japan pays many nations to vote for their proposed laws in the IWC and until the IWC updates it's regs properly there will be massive issues. I'm not saying abolish whaling, but better moderation and monitoring needs to be made a priority for the IWC.

[jpsum]

It's hard to determine if the whaling ship turned into the batmobile or the batmobile accelerated into the ship's path.

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[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by Peanuto

The problem is not with the Japanese per se. Anyone who knows dick all about this topic would know it begins with the IWC. The International Whaling Commission. http://www.iwcoffice.org/ They set up their laws which protect only the larger species of whales. They limit killings on smaller whales for "medical research" but have no regulation on dolphins which are a smaller species of whale. The Japanese kill every whale possible within the legal bounds (which are setting the bar too high and slowly depleting populations) and then slaughter the fuck out of dolphins. Dolphins have all but disappeared in regions of japan and continue to be slaughtered daily. I am not a bleeding heart activist or a tree hugger. In fact I love to hunt and fish. A largely overlooked issue is what is happening with this dolphin meat. Dolphin meat contains levels of mercury roughly at 800x the legal limit. I forget the measurement unit but the legal level is 0.4 and dolphins have registered as 2000. They are killing the dolphins and packaging the meat as much more expensive and less toxic whale meat. In addition the dolphin fisheries in Japan have bought off entire towns to look the other way. Meanwhile they are providing the school system (until they were caught and the program was discontinued) with free lunches...guess what kind of meat. It all goes back to the top. Japan pays many nations to vote for their proposed laws in the IWC and until the IWC updates it's regs properly there will be massive issues. I'm not saying abolish whaling, but better moderation and monitoring needs to be made a priority for the IWC.

I agree with you. What people need to realize here is that these crazy tree huggers aren't out there harrassing a few fishermen trying to make a living. They're attempting to stop large companies from raping natural resources for profit.

Governments have failed to do anything substantial about it, and without these guys making raising public awareness, there would probably be a lot more of it going on than there already is.

The IWC is responsible for what's going on through inaction and indifference to its own mission (regulation of the whaling industry).

[Peanuto]

Looked pretty even. Looked like the whalers got well within a legal distance, blatantly showing hostility with their positioning, and then it looked like whoever was manning the helm of the speedboat tried to gun it to get out of the way, but was too late. Sea Shepherds don't have infinite funds and that is an extremely expensive boat. I do not see them intentionally fucking it up for some press.

[Kroy]

I don't really watch this show. Have probably seen somewhere between 1-3 episodes worth. I think it's boring as hell to watch; everyone's so prissy. I'd really like to see some whalers fight back and destroy these guys. I don't believe we should hunt whales to extinction, but I also think hunters should have a right to hunt them with controls in place.

But if someone were to mess with my livelihood in international waters, I'd end the problem. I'm just surprised these activists are still alive after so many seasons.

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by Peanuto

I do not see them intentionally fucking it up for some press.

Same here. I'm not sure what the steering arrangement is on that boat, but if it's got rudders, you have to have a little forward speed before they do any good.

I'm not sure why he wasn't in reverse though, which would have made more sense. If they did actually ram the ship, it was accidental. They'd be crazy to think that carbon fiber thing they're riding in is even going to put a dent in the whaling ship!

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by Kroy

I don't really watch this show. Have probably seen somewhere between 1-3 episodes worth. I think it's boring as hell to watch. I'd really like to see some whalers fight back and destroy these guys. I don't care either way about whales/whalers. But if someone were to mess with my livelihood in international waters, I'd end the problem. I'm just surprised these activists are still alive after so many seasons.

If your livelyhood threatened to make an species extinct, I'd expect you to find another one.

This isn't about some salty old fishermen doing what they've always done. It's corporate greed, and nothing more.

[lucas.kent]

Originally Posted by Peanuto

The problem is not with the Japanese per se. Anyone who knows dick all about this topic would know it begins with the IWC. The International Whaling Commission. http://www.iwcoffice.org/ They set up their laws which protect only the larger species of whales. They limit killings on smaller whales for "medical research" but have no regulation on dolphins which are a smaller species of whale. The Japanese kill every whale possible within the legal bounds (which are setting the bar too high and slowly depleting populations) and then slaughter the fuck out of dolphins. Dolphins have all but disappeared in regions of japan and continue to be slaughtered daily. I am not a bleeding heart activist or a tree hugger. In fact I love to hunt and fish. A largely overlooked issue is what is happening with this dolphin meat. Dolphin meat contains levels of mercury roughly at 800x the legal limit. I forget the measurement unit but the legal level is 0.4 and dolphins have registered as 2000. They are killing the dolphins and packaging the meat as much more expensive and less toxic whale meat. In addition the dolphin fisheries in Japan have bought off entire towns to look the other way. Meanwhile they are providing the school system (until they were caught and the program was discontinued) with free lunches...guess what kind of meat. It all goes back to the top. Japan pays many nations to vote for their proposed laws in the IWC and until the IWC updates it's regs properly there will be massive issues. I'm not saying abolish whaling, but better moderation and monitoring needs to be made a priority for the IWC.

I don't think anyone can really defend the practice of whaling or of killing dolphins; clearly, that is something that most of us can agree on. What really gets me is that the methods that these eco-terrorists take to try and get their self-righteous point across. They are risking the lives of themselves and of everyone else out on the water.

I saw this comment below one of the articles and thought it summed it up pretty well: These so-called protectors of the earth need to stop burning oil and polluting the arctic on their extended vacations from their adult responsibilities and reality.

[Kroy]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

If your livelyhood threatened to make an species extinct, I'd expect you to find another one.

This isn't about some salty old fishermen doing what they've always done. It's corporate greed, and nothing more.

I don't watch the show, so I may be wrong, but aren't the Japanese within legal rights when whaling? Shouldn't these activist be trying to change the system rather than the grunt workers doing the actual fishing? I'm 100% certain the fisherman hauling up that whale isn't responsible for his company policies; he's just trying to feed his family.

Edit: someone in an earlier post mentioned how the Japanese were only hunting smaller species of whale, which are not protected by IWC. Can you seriously blame the fisherman on the whaling boat?

[Kroy]

Originally Posted by lkw15

I don't think anyone can really defend the practice of whaling or of killing dolphins; clearly, that is something that most of us can agree on. What really gets me is that the methods that these eco-terrorists take to try and get their self-righteous point across. They are risking the lives of themselves and of everyone else out on the water.

I saw this comment below one of the articles and thought it summed it up pretty well: These so-called protectors of the earth need to stop burning oil and polluting the arctic on their extended vacations from their adult responsibilities and reality.

you know... that comment made me think... I wonder how much fuel/resources these whale protectors use up every season.