[radiantm3]

Originally Posted by persian54

I get what you mean

But jailbreaking opens up a whole new world

It would be VERY hard for me to go on without SBSettings, FCSB, Tab to Unlock, Quick Reply SMS, Categories.... I can go on
These are free apps you get through Cydia that make the phone so much more user friendlily and accessible.

I know it does for many, especially those who like to tinker. Personally I think the iPhone OS is just fine as it is. Jailbreaking just adds another layer of work and things to possibly go wrong. It just doesn't add any real value for me personally. But I've become the same with with my computers. The less applications/utilities I need to use, the better.

[radiantm3]

Originally Posted by Kensta335

Don't put words in my mouth.

I never mentioned anything about stealing from hard working self employed developers. He asks what's so good about jail breaking and I gave him the gist of it. What he decides to do with the information is all on him.

I never said you did it, personally. But when you download those cracked apps for free, that's basically what you are doing.

[persian54]

Originally Posted by radiantm3

I know it does for many, especially those who like to tinker. Personally I think the iPhone OS is just fine as it is. Jailbreaking just adds another layer of work and things to possibly go wrong. It just doesn't add any real value for me personally. But I've become the same with with my computers. The less applications/utilities I need to use, the better.

I love playing with the OS

I've been going so since the original iPhone 3 years ago...

it can cause problems, yes, but if you know what you're doing, it's not all that bad.

I used to crash my old iPhones all the time

But I've gotten it down now haha

Plus, you can always just restore the Phone if it gets too buggy

[Kensta335]

Originally Posted by radiantm3

I never said you did it, personally. But when you download those cracked apps for free, that's basically what you are doing.

You quoted me so that's what it felt like. I don't have much apps. Tom Tom and NBA League Pass are the ones I probably use most. I have a few games too but they are from big name developers such as Gameloft or Chillingo. I have a few paid Cydia apps like Lockinfo and 3G Unrestrictor. Most of the other stuff are use are free. Mostly used for theming.

[bigslickak]

Originally Posted by BMW E90

I think the iphone is alright and really isn't anything to write home about. There are many other phones out there that can do pretty much the same thing. The only reason why iphone is so popular is because it is based off the ipod which was the turn around product for Apple.

I have no comment on the service of either one. One thing I really hate are the recent AT&T commercials with that guy Luke Wilson (?). Verizon said they have 5x more 3G coverage than AT&T. AT&T then comes back with a commercial saying that they cover something like 300 million people. Sure for those that don't pay attention it sounds good but that didn't answer anything about their 3G coverage. They've done their job of covering up their weaknesses but it's getting pretty damn annoying when they hear one point and reply with a completely different one.

I can't believe I'm going to defend AT&T on this, but here goes nothing. Verizon does have 5x as much 3G coverage as AT&T, but that is talking about total area covered, as in sq. miles. The fact of the matter is AT&T covers the vast majority of the population of the US and doesn't seem to be as concerned about places in the boonies. Not many people are worried about 3G coverage while driving on I-90 in eastern Montana for example.

Anyways, I have a BB Curve myself and my AT&T contract is up in a couple months. I am really tempted to switched to Verizon and get the Droid. I guess I'll have to check that out and also some iPhones and just see what will work for me.

[Bweezy311]

Originally Posted by bigslickak

I can't believe I'm going to defend AT&T on this, but here goes nothing. Verizon does have 5x as much 3G coverage as AT&T, but that is talking about total area covered, as in sq. miles. The fact of the matter is AT&T covers the vast majority of the population of the US and doesn't seem to be as concerned about places in the boonies. Not many people are worried about 3G coverage while driving on I-90 in eastern Montana for example.

Anyways, I have a BB Curve myself and my AT&T contract is up in a couple months. I am really tempted to switched to Verizon and get the Droid. I guess I'll have to check that out and also some iPhones and just see what will work for me.

Reason why I'm not looking at the droid as strongly is because I feel their app store won't be as highly supported by the big guys as the iPhone is. I've read about how hard it is to program on andriod because it is so open ended, therefore I think less companies will devote the time and money to make 5 versions of one app/game as opposed to 1 version for the iPhone.

[Kensta335]

Originally Posted by Bweezy311

Reason why I'm not looking at the droid as strongly is because I feel their app store won't be as highly supported by the big guys as the iPhone is. I've read about how hard it is to program on andriod because it is so open ended, therefore I think less companies will devote the time and money to make 5 versions of one app/game as opposed to 1 version for the iPhone.

Yeah, that's a big reason why I don't want to switch to any phone right now. I hear good things are coming to the Nexus One but, until they have a strong app store, I'm sticking with the iphone 3gs.

[Andrew@ET]

A jailbroken iphone is the only iphone I would carry.. iphone user since day one the 3gs out performs any phone ive seen sold in america.

korea has some pretty crazy phones though

[Ron1n]

Originally Posted by persian54

I get what you mean

But jailbreaking opens up a whole new world

It would be VERY hard for me to go on without SBSettings, FCSB, Tab to Unlock, Quick Reply SMS, Categories.... I can go on
These are free apps you get through Cydia that make the phone so much more user friendlily and accessible.

This is a more accurate, and more appropriate, reason for jailbreaking. Much like the discussion of street racing, posting that jailbreaking is a way to pirate software is a pretty stupid decision.

[Andrew@ET]

especially installious

[Blake]

jailbait your iphone

[samwoo2go]

[lucas.kent]

I've actually had a Blackberry (AT&T), iPhone, and now I've got the DROID Eris (Verizon). I did like the iPhone a lot - it was very capable, fit in with my use of iTunes, great apps, etc., but two things really killed it for me.

1 - the iPhone was TERRIBLE as a phone. Whether that is a function of AT&T or the phone itself, I would constantly experience dropped calls, calls that went straight to voice mail, and generally bad reception. And I'm in DC so there is no reason that the reception should be that bad.

2 - battery life. The iPhone is meant to do a lot of things, and it does them well. Listen to Pandora, play a game of Madden, watch an episode of Family Guy, etc. these are all things that you'll do when you have an iPhone. It's almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy; it is so entertaining and you can do so much, the battery just won't make through a standard work day - and can barely make it 7-8 hours.

Did I love the iPhone? Yup. But I talk way too much on the phone to have to deal with that many dropped calls - and I really need at least 10 hours of battery for it to work for me.

[T7R_Sky]

There is nothing a 3gs cant do if you jailbreak it! I jailbroke mine and I can multitask and everything!

[persian54]

people complain about ATT service but for me... It's never failed me..
I love it

my gf who has tmobile has shitty service anywhere we go.. while i have full service..

i dont have much experience with Verizon though

[Snowball]

i had 2 bb's before i got my 3gs and i would never ever go back.. but it depends what u use it for.. the iphone is just convenient for me.. better internet.. easier to listen to music.. plugs into the car for music (i have a car charger for it).. blah blah blah.. but if the phone is work related and you are going to be constantly making phone calls and emailing and scheduling and anything of the like.. then i think the 3gs is not for you.. its not a business made phone.. I know a lot of people who have complained about that.. but if that's not the case.. then GET IT

[Ron1n]

There's only one place that the iPhone fails for me, and that's Exchange support. Yes, it has it, but it's still poorly implemented.

Aside from the fact that all emails have to go through Blackberry's servers, I think they do Exchange integration best. If Apple could figure out how to support similar features (primarily, I want to be able to have *all* of my filters running in Outlook, and still see every email that comes in on my iPhone..as it stands right now, I have to remove the filters for the important emails, so that they dump into my inbox, else I'll miss them, and *then* I have to sort them after I've read them), I'd be one happy camper.

One would argue I could create a filter for all that important stuff, have it dump into 1 central folder, and then sync to that folder instead, but that's certainly not going to be conducive to archiving.

[demosthenes]

I love my 3GS, and I'm very fussy. It's great to have a computer in your pocket all the time.

Apple made it very easy to use. I set mine up in a few hours without consulting any documentation, including two email accounts, WiFi, bluetooth, contacts, calendar, music, photos and more. It helps pass the time when I'm stuck waiting for something. I was concerned about the keypad but it didn't take long to get used to it.

My only complaint is battery life. I turn off WiFi when I'm not using it and that helps a lot.

[DrockNJ]

Originally Posted by T7R_Sky

There is nothing a 3gs cant do if you jailbreak it! I jailbroke mine and I can multitask and everything!

[Bweezy311]

I am now the owner of an iPhone 3GS. Such a gut wrenching feeling, but overall I think I'll be happy about the decision.

[persian54]

Originally Posted by demosthenes

My only complaint is battery life. I turn off WiFi when I'm not using it and that helps a lot.

Tell me about it

My battery dies in about 3-4 hours if I don't constantly have it plugged in (I'm almost never NOT using it)

Thank you BMW for a USB plug in in our cars heh :P

[Inspired]

I just got iphone few days ago.. my friend tried unlocking my iphone 3gs but I everytime I reboot it has a itune icon and forces me to restore it

Is it because my iphone firmwire is too new?