Got a soft spot for hot hatches

BobsM3Coupe · 05-30-2011, 07:20 PM

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Boy, the back of that Volvo sure is ugly.

CAPSGOD · 05-30-2011, 08:28 PM

It is a hate-or-love it design.

Sniz · 05-30-2011, 09:36 PM

Id rock that Volvo if they sold it here, always had a soft spot for Volvo's. Owned 3 t5 variants.

Garduna · 05-30-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Artmasterx

The US has the C30, just not the Polestar version (which I guess no one has, and maybe you were implying that one). The US has the T5 version with 225 hp and 235 lb-ft torque, so it is reasonably hot... maybe just not as sporty as some of the others.

Yep, I was refering to the Polestar.

Garduna · 05-30-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by footie

Not true if you are to believe VW America.

I simply don't have any faith in european brands bringing over the good stuff to north america lol. And if my some strike of luck one does come over....... it'll be oh so rare and overpriced. That's how I feel at least.

AngelinIsRich08 · 05-30-2011, 10:13 PM

My fav. hatch is the Subaru Imperza WRX STi.

GregTheStig · 05-30-2011, 11:59 PM

I effing love that STi wagon. No lie, if VW brings the Scirocco R over here I would love to daily drive one. That might be the meanest looking hatch in a while.

Not sure if I'd sell my 328i for it, but daaayuuum this "Studie R" looks amazing. 270 hp.

EpicE90 · 05-31-2011, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GregTheStig

I effing love that STi wagon. No lie, if VW brings the Scirocco R over here I would love to daily drive one. That might be the meanest looking hatch in a while.

Not sure if I'd sell my 328i for it, but daaayuuum this "Studie R" looks amazing. 270 hp.

VW BRING THIS CAR TO AMERICA!!!! I literally don't care how much slower it is then my 5.0 I would sell my car in a second to have this. I think its automotive art!

TimZ · 05-31-2011, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Garduna

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Originally Posted by footie

Not true if you are to believe VW America.

I simply don't have any faith in european brands bringing over the good stuff to north america lol. And if my some strike of luck one does come over....... it'll be oh so rare and overpriced. That's how I feel at least.

We never get the hot European hatches. They are so much fun to drive. Not even Ford gives us their top of the line focus rs500. This has always made me wonder whyyy??!!!

My cousin has a vw mk4 r32 golf in manual, this deserves to be among the top 5 cars Ioved to drive. The exhaust note is so beautiful
Would love to own one of those just to mess around in

Artmasterx · 05-31-2011, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Garduna

I simply don't have any faith in european brands bringing over the good stuff to north america lol. And if my some strike of luck one does come over....... it'll be oh so rare and overpriced. That's how I feel at least.

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Originally Posted by TimZ

We never get the hot European hatches. They are so much fun to drive. Not even Ford gives us their top of the line focus rs500. This has always made me wonder whyyy??!!!

My cousin has a vw mk4 r32 golf in manual, this deserves to be among the top 5 cars Ioved to drive. The exhaust note is so beautiful
Would love to own one of those just to mess around in

I think it is generally because they would either money or have to charge too much for the Euro-spec cars. This is one reason why Ford hasn't brought the Euro Mondeo and Focus over here, because it cost too much for them to make. I guess they have sorted out the logistics now and have a global platform, so it is starting to make sense.

With the currency where it is now, it makes it even easier to sell a better quality product in Europe because of the relative value of the currency.

It could also have to do with emissions and other regulatory aspects, but I really don't know. The diesels are certainly a regulatory issue, particularly California and some northeastern states being a pain in the ass. That is specifically why we didn't get the Subaru Legacy turbodiesel; it could meet requirements for every state but Cali and NY I think.

In the end, it must all come down to money in one way or another... if they could make enough money to balance the hassle, you can bet they would be over here.

MikeyV · 06-02-2011, 07:18 AM

It would have to be the Polestar C30, Volvo for the love all god you need to build this car.

BrokenVert · 06-02-2011, 11:47 AM

Im still waiting for the long rumored Turbo AWD Fiesta. I want one as my DD

MikeyV · 06-02-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BrokenVert

Im still waiting for the long rumored Turbo AWD Fiesta. I want one as my DD

Unless you want to spend €500,000 you're not going to get one.

TSM330i · 06-02-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GregTheStig

I effing love that STi wagon. No lie, if VW brings the Scirocco R over here I would love to daily drive one. That might be the meanest looking hatch in a while.

Not sure if I'd sell my 328i for it, but daaayuuum this "Studie R" looks amazing. 270 hp.

I saw plenty of Scirocco's in the Nurburgring when I was there. Quite a few R20's as well. VERY nice cars!

I rented a Renault Clio Sport Cup for the Nurburgring. Very light weight and easy to toss around the track. It was a blast!

BrokenVert · 06-02-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyV

Unless you want to spend €500,000 you're not going to get one.

Fiestas with FMICs and camo have been running around Detroit for the past year. Its just a matter of when it will happen.

Swangin818 · 06-02-2011, 08:47 PM

The Golf R would be perfect for my daily driver, has the looks, speed and the fun factor thats just right for everyday driving. ill take two please!

Silver-Bolt · 06-02-2011, 09:19 PM

I was very dissappointed with our MKV R32. Performance was not great, fuel economy was horrible, handled more like a FWD than an AWD. Fit and finish were good and the interior was nice although the sunroof rattled like crazy. Very high road noise inside.

positiveions · 06-02-2011, 09:44 PM

my first VW was a MKII GTI 16V2.0L; missed that car. Everything was basic, even the sunroof was manual.
IF I would to get a hatchback, it would be a slightly used R32, and slap on a turbo kit ~400ish hp.

MikeyV · 06-03-2011, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BrokenVert

Fiestas with FMICs and camo have been running around Detroit for the past year. Its just a matter of when it will happen.

I doubt it, besdies if there was going to be an AWD turbo Fiesta they would be developing it in Europe. You might as well buy a MINI Countryman S All4 if you want a small AWD turbo hatch.

mtla4 · 06-03-2011, 12:44 PM

All that being said bmw is crazy not offering some kind of 135I hatch. I would have bought that instead of my coupe. Even a 130I hatch. I'm talking for north america.

bmwcoupeftw · 06-04-2011, 02:53 PM

Ive been test driving a Audi A1 1.4TFSI manual car this weekend. But you Americans would probly lafe at an engine that small :P

Its pretty fun tho, but again lacks good position 4 tall people...

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