[Taittinger]

That was crazy.

[FrankoQ]

Originally Posted by Taittinger

How was Hamilton involved? I missed that.

He was braking hard behind the safety car.
Mark was close.
Vettel was watching somewhere and next thing he was hitting webber.

In post interview, Hamilton said he was braking hard because he was so close to the safety car.

I'm not saying it was Hamilton's fault.
But some media would love to put it that way.

[FrankoQ]

Originally Posted by Taittinger

That was crazy.

that was great!!!

[67bmer]

its really to bad he won under the circumstances. There will always be the *. I do not believe that McLaren would have done nearly as well without stealing Ferraris technology.

Just watch the Australian race again. If in doubt, compare to Canada. Look at Ferraris performance recently at Canada. Ferrari was definitely sbotaged in Monaco.

[533ogetnom]

Originally Posted by 67bmer

its really to bad he won under the circumstances. There will always be the *. I do not believe that McLaren would have done nearly as well without stealing Ferraris technology.

Just watch the Australian race again. If in doubt, compare to Canada. Look at Ferraris performance recently at Canada. Ferrari was definitely sbotaged in Monaco.

you obviously have not watched the races or you never would have made a statement like that

actually, i would be suprised if you even understood the basics of this season to make a statment like that

[dxb335d]

i was racing the same time in karts as lewis

i never raced him tho

he has been spoon fed all the way, had all his racing paid for for tenyears

now listen carefully, he aint no wonder kid

Friom leaving karting to racing F1

Alonso 2 years
Schu 2 years
Raikkonen 18 months

Lewis Hamilton 6 YEARS

no wonder he is winning in f1 with the best car, he is a very experianced racign driver, most drivers who take that long dotn ever get to f1!!! just shows you they didnt think he was redy till now!!

he coudlnt win the jica British karting championship so

mACLAREn mercedes made a karting class for him to dominate which was televised and had 13 drivers in, called maclaren mercedes champs of the futurte

what a load of shit that was, the BIG players wouldnt even entertain that seried ad they concentrated on the prestidgious British champiosnhip

give him his due, he wontthe euro FA champs in 2000 (the GP2 of karting if you will) and when he moved upto Formula Super A (The F1 of karting) he got his ass CAINED by some real racers. guys who didnt have the money to spend £400k going single seater racing, but remember lewis did, it was all paid for!!!

alot of real talented racers have been lost through finacial difficulties, ones who are far more talented than hamilton.. but he has used this fantastic opportuniy to maximum effect, but having the money support and only the best people around you for ten years, of course you will succeed

there wa alot of polictics aroudn the way he got in there with Ron Dennis and maclaren, ALOT...

every fuckin 10 year old shows potential in a kart, his father was a bloody good business man who put him in the right place a the right time, Lewis is a good marketing tool, look what he has doen for F1 in america now after the shennanigans a few years back with the tire problem

and The UK have gone mad for this ''Wonder Kid'' which is far from the truth, he is not wonder kid, just a good driver whose been gifted the world, not raw talent that has got there on merit

Carlos

[dxb335d]

it annoyed me how the UK presenters gave Lewis ''driver of the day''

WTF, he led from start to finish (aprt from pistops obviosuly) Kimi Raikkonen was the driver of the day, from last to 3rd!!!

now imagine he started where he should have done and he would have BLITZED hamilton

[533ogetnom]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

i was racing the same time in karts as lewis

i never raced him tho

he has been spoon fed all the way, had all his racing paid for for tenyears

now listen carefully, he aint no wonder kid

Friom leaving karting to racing F1

Alonso 2 years
Schu 2 years
Raikkonen 18 months

Lewis Hamilton 6 YEARS

no wonder he is winning in f1 with the best car, he is a very experianced racign driver, most drivers who take that long dotn ever get to f1!!! just shows you they didnt think he was redy till now!!

he coudlnt win the jica British karting championship so

mACLAREn mercedes made a karting class for him to dominate which was televised and had 13 drivers in, called maclaren mercedes champs of the futurte

what a load of shit that was, the BIG players wouldnt even entertain that seried ad they concentrated on the prestidgious British champiosnhip

give him his due, he wontthe euro FA champs in 2000 (the GP2 of karting if you will) and when he moved upto Formula Super A (The F1 of karting) he got his ass CAINED by some real racers. guys who didnt have the money to spend £400k going single seater racing, but remember lewis did, it was all paid for!!!

alot of real talented racers have been lost through finacial difficulties, ones who are far more talented than hamilton.. but he has used this fantastic opportuniy to maximum effect, but having the money support and only the best people around you for ten years, of course you will succeed

there wa alot of polictics aroudn the way he got in there with Ron Dennis and maclaren, ALOT...

every fuckin 10 year old shows potential in a kart, his father was a bloody good business man who put him in the right place a the right time, Lewis is a good marketing tool, look what he has doen for F1 in america now after the shennanigans a few years back with the tire problem

and The UK have gone mad for this ''Wonder Kid'' which is far from the truth, he is not wonder kid, just a good driver whose been gifted the world, not raw talent that has got there on merit

Carlos

i feel dumber for having read your post

do you know how old hamilton is? he had no choice but to race in karts and lower motorsports for so long, motorsports DO have age requirements you know


hes a better driver than alonso in his FIRST TIME IN AN F1 MACHINE what else is there to say or that matters

[533ogetnom]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

it annoyed me how the UK presenters gave Lewis ''driver of the day''

WTF, he led from start to finish (aprt from pistops obviosuly) Kimi Raikkonen was the driver of the day, from last to 3rd!!!

now imagine he started where he should have done and he would have BLITZED hamilton

holly crap, you have no idea how f1 works do you? f1 is a time trial not a wheel to wheel racing sport, its won by strategy and going faster than your competition at the right time

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by 533ogetnom

i feel dumber for having read your post

do you know how old hamilton is? he had no choice but to race in karts and lower motorsports for so long, motorsports DO have age requirements you know


hes a better driver than alonso in his FIRST TIME IN AN F1 MACHINE what else is there to say or that matters

I raced in motorsport, have you????????

i know hold old he is, if he was full of raw talent he would have been put in f1 3 years ago, but he wasnt ready!

kimi raikkonen, 18 months of single seater racing, thats raw talent my friend

Originally Posted by 533ogetnom

holly crap, you have no idea how f1 works do you? f1 is a time trial not a wheel to wheel racing sport, its won by strategy and going faster than your competition at the right time

holy crap, ive been following f1 since a child and have been to many many gp's how many have you been to?

i have every race on dvd/vhs for over 27 years!!! and im only 23

i have thousands of books aswell, and having competed im motorsport and karting at the same time as mr hamilton, i am 100% qualifed to comment,

if i knew AS LITTLE AS YOU DO about lewis hamilton, i too may think he is the best thing since sliced bread.. but fortunately for me i know alot about him, i knew lewis ten years ago thanks bud, saw him mincing around everyday

F1 is is wheel to wheel battle!!!!! did you not watch the japanese grand prix??? kimi raikkonen last to 3rd? lots of wheel to wheel racing there!!

did you not see the last lap either?? what i saw was very wheel to wheel also...


hamilton has been gifted a fantastic chance which he has seized, just other better more talented racers deserve to be there more then he does

[FrankoQ]

take it easy guys.

So how about Ralph? where would he go next year?

[533ogetnom]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

I raced in motorsport, have you????????

i know hold old he is, if he was full of raw talent he would have been put in f1 3 years ago, but he wasnt ready!

when he was 18? yea sure, right

[Taittinger]

Originally Posted by FrankoQ

take it easy guys.

So how about Ralph? where would he go next year?

NASCAR

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by 533ogetnom

when he was 18? yea sure, right

19 actualy, and yes lots of drivers started at 19

[Neema]

i wish nick heidfeild would do better........i wish BMW would do better in general.

[Taittinger]

Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

i wish nick heidfeild would do better........i wish BMW would do better in general.

I think they will do better. This was only their first year owning the entire car and they did consistently well, drivers and constructors.

[dxb335d]

BMW will improve tenfold dont you worry, they have the resources and they disire to succeed!!

Carlos

[67bmer]

Originally Posted by 533ogetnom

you obviously have not watched the races or you never would have made a statement like that

actually, i would be suprised if you even understood the basics of this season to make a statment like that

Actually, I have been following F1 since about 1978!

I am a mechanical aerospace engineer so I understand the technology.

Maybe you should find out what happened.

[325ie90]

Originally Posted by 533ogetnom

thats got to be the only place that should take him, i mean he sold out mclaren, any team other then ferrari (who he sold mclaren out to) would be NUTS to take him, regardless of how many points he can get them


hes showed time and time again that if he doesnt get things exactly his way he will turn against the team, be it in the press, during a race, or by handing over incriminating evidence

i used to like him, but now i wish schumi would have won last year

Indirectly, he had saved the drivers point of McLaren being taken away. The FIA had threatened the drivers that they will revoke their super license if they did not provide information that they knew about Ferrari.

Btw McLaren should have seen this coming especially when they were favoring Ron’s little baby.

[FrankoQ]

Wow!
So now Hamilton's win is under investigation!!!

from f1live:

"Officials are reviewing video evidence suggesting that Hamilton's driving behind the safety car at the rain-lashed Fuji Speedway led to a crash that ended the race for Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel."

[67bmer]

Check the video out!

If I was Weber, I would have thought that LH was pulling off for some reason.

What was he doing passing the pace car? And then he did not even follow the track. Weber was in trouble because he passed LH. Maybe some remedial training in following the pace car is in order. Or, if he gets DQd maybe that will train him how to follow.

[533ogetnom]

Originally Posted by 325ie90

Indirectly, he had saved the drivers point of McLaren being taken away. The FIA had threatened the drivers that they will revoke their super license if they did not provide information that they knew about Ferrari.

Btw McLaren should have seen this coming especially when they were favoring Ron’s little baby.

i dont see hamiltons license revoked, dont know why alonso couldnt do the same