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      10-17-2013, 10:37 PM   #23
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Around the 2.9 mile test loop, Chevy compared the Z/28 to some interesting benchmarks – its siblings, the 1LE and ZL1, and its arch enemies, the Mustang GT500 and Boss 302 Laguna Seca. Interestingly, the car with the most power, the GT500, also posted the slowest lap time, clocking a 1:59.97. The Laguna Seca did a bit better, running a 1:59.05, followed by the 1LE at 1:58.85. Despite the intensely technical nature of the test track, the ZL1 was still able to use its superior horsepower compared to the 1LE to run a faster 1:56.58, but it was the Z/28 that delivered the best time at a mere 1:53.71

Where it stacks up on the ring.
38. Nissan GT-R Spec-V 7:34.46 163 '09 492 / 1680
39. RUF RT12 7:35.00 163 '05 650 / 1573

40. Porsche 911 Carrera S 7:37.90 162 '11 400 / 1415 Timo Kluck
41. Porsche 911 Turbo 7:38.00 162 '06 480 / 1585
42. Lexus LFA 7:38.00 162 '10 560 / 1609
43. Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera 7:38.00 162 '10 570 / 1430 Horst von Saurma
44. Nissan GT-R 7:38.00 162 '08 480 / 1740
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      10-18-2013, 12:03 AM   #24
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I don't care how fast they are... I had rented a Camaro SS for a week on a vacation and while it was a fun car, I would never own one because they are really impractical for their size and weight and interior design, functionality, and feel are horrible. I could never drive it daily and be happy. For weekend cars, there are better options out there. Hell, I would rather own a used C6 over a new Camaro. As for Z28, while it is a fast car, used C6 Z06 or even a new C7 will be a better option. Hell, C7 put down over 500whp with just a small cam and headers already.
Agree on the camaro completely. 500 was a lot I was just dissapointed to get that it was Heads, Cam, Headers, and Tune.
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I don't care how fast they are... I had rented a Camaro SS for a week on a vacation and while it was a fun car, I would never own one because they are really impractical for their size and weight and interior design, functionality, and feel are horrible. I could never drive it daily and be happy. For weekend cars, there are better options out there. Hell, I would rather own a used C6 over a new Camaro. As for Z28, while it is a fast car, used C6 Z06 or even a new C7 will be a better option. Hell, C7 put down over 500whp with just a small cam and headers already.
Z28 isn't a daily driver anyways. It is a street legal track car.

AC delete ftw.
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Z28 isn't a daily driver anyways. It is a street legal track car.

AC delete ftw.
Like I said, it is still too heavy for a stripped out, street legal track car.

There are better options out there including Corvettes whoch are much lighter.
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      10-18-2013, 11:10 AM   #28
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Like I said, it is still too heavy for a stripped out, street legal track car.

There are better options out there including Corvettes whoch are much lighter.
Corvette lacks a backseat.....

The Camaro will lose weight when it switches to the Alpha platform. Zeta was designed to spawn big vehicles like the Holden Commodore/Pontiac G8/Chevy SS. It wasn't the best platform for the Camaro, but that is all GM had to use at the time and they didn't do too bad of a job with it. If you want a heavy muscle car, look no further than the Challenger.
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Like I said, it is still too heavy for a stripped out, street legal track car.

There are better options out there including Corvettes whoch are much lighter.
Yes it is 3,800 lbs, but the specs on this car are insane. I have tremendous amount of respect for GM for even building it.

Everyone isn't a corvette fan.

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Yes it is 3,800 lbs, but the specs on this car are insane. I have tremendous amount of respect for GM for even building it.

Everyone isn't a corvette fan.
+1

Also, you won't feel guilty for stripping what is remaining of the interior out. Good starting point for people that want a dedicated track car. Amazing car for someone that wants a track car that they can pack their wife and two kids into and pack enough stuff for a weekend HPDE. I'm looking forward to what people do with this car once it's out on the market.
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Corvette lacks a backseat.....

The Camaro will lose weight when it switches to the Alpha platform. Zeta was designed to spawn big vehicles like the Holden Commodore/Pontiac G8/Chevy SS. It wasn't the best platform for the Camaro, but that is all GM had to use at the time and they didn't do too bad of a job with it. If you want a heavy muscle car, look no further than the Challenger.
Well, backseat means little to nothing as the car is a stripped out, dedicated track car. Regular Camaro SS isn't particularly nice to live with as a daily driver, and Z28 will be far worse. Camaro is surprisingly small inside considering its weight and outside dimensions. It also has horrible visibility and interior quality sucks big time. Even if this car has a backseat, do you think you'd really use it to carry other people around often? I just don't see this car being driven enough except on the track so I see very little use for the backseat except for carrying stuff you need for the track day.

I respect GM for building the Camaro, and I think SS is a good car for the price. But still, Z28 at 3800lbs, which is for a stripped out track car that will be very impractical for daily use(AC delete, only one speaker for the sound system, thin glasses, little to no sound deadening, no spare tire, and still that weight? really???)? And $60k price tag? No thanks. It uses the same engine as C6 Z06(which is pretty darn good BTW... puts down mid-500rwhp with just a cam and headers), so I'd rather have the Z06 which is lighter. If you put similar tires on a Z06(same dry-weather street-legal race tires), I'm sure you'd get similar or better results with 600lbs less weight.

If you want a daily driver with backseat + track day car in one package, there are much better choices if you are willing to sacrifice a bit of performance. Z28 sure isn't a daily driver material unless you are willing to sacrifice A LOT of comfort.

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