[Whostheboss]

Originally Posted by Lucid Moment

How about these guys?

Heath Ledger > Jack Nicholson

(although Nicholson is a great actor)

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by Whostheboss

Heath Ledger > Jack Nicholson

(although Nicholson is a great actor)

Was gonna say, I know who is more intimidating as a villain. Last great legacy is all I will add.

[Samurai of 2day]

Modern mythology characters like Batman survive over many generations because even though these characters heve been "re-booted" many times, and we have seen new incarnations of the same character arise for over 50 years, the core of the individuals' personality and what they chose to fight for remain relative and can be identified with by each generation and their personal respective era.

Even though we know these these characters are fictional, we usually can find an ideal or logic we share with our favorite ones. Plus some of these characters have some pretty cool toys we wouldn't mind having at our disposal, or they have some badass tendencies we would like to exploit or exact from time to time, but would end up in prison if we attempeted them, lol.

Back on topic...

Favorite DC Hero: Batman
Favorite DC Villian: Clayface

Favorite Marvel hero: Spiderman
Favorite Marvel Villan: Magneto

Favorite Non DC/Marvel Hero: Trunks
Favorite Non DC/Marvel Villan: Demona

[954Stealth]

That photo is pretty cool, Lucid

Originally Posted by Samurai of 2day

Modern mythology characters like Batman survive over...

Favorite DC Hero: Batman
Favorite DC Villian: Clayface

Favorite Marvel hero: Spiderman
Favorite Marvel Villan: Magneto

Favorite Non DC/Marvel Hero: Trunks
Favorite Non DC/Marvel Villan: Demona

You make some really good, valid points here. The core of the characters and their values, skills, etc remain the same and thus makes it easy to change out the actor (They'll be doing this soon with Jackman, RDJ and as they've done with Hulk, Spiderman, Batman, Superman...and on and on)


*****
Interesting trivia: There's a scene in the Dark Knight where The joker is walking away holding his mask. If you look closely there is a poster for Spiderman 3 in the background

[Samurai of 2day]

Originally Posted by 954Stealth

That photo is pretty cool, Lucid





You make some really good, valid points here. The core of the characters and their values, skills, etc remain the same and thus makes it easy to change out the actor (They'll be doing this soon with Jackman, RDJ and as they've done with Hulk, Spiderman, Batman, Superman...and on and on)


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Interesting trivia: There's a scene in the Dark Knight where The joker is walking away holding his mask. If you look closely there is a poster for Spiderman 3 in the background

Nice find!! I would not have noticed that easter egg if you didn't point it out.

Maybe that is fore-shadowing for the cross over movie franchises that I am sure we will se sometime in the future... cross overs like...

Superman vs Goku
Batman vs Spiderman
X-men vs Justice League

... Just to name a few

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Samurai of 2day

Nice find!! I would not have noticed that easter egg if you didn't point it out.

Maybe that is fore-shadowing for the cross over movie franchises that I am sure we will se sometime in the future... cross overs like...

Superman vs Goku
Batman vs Spiderman
X-men vs Justice League

... Just to name a few

Superman would beat Goku - and I'm a DIE HARD Goku fan.

SpiderMan would make quick work of Batman. He's faster (he can literally dodge bullets) Stronger ( He can lift over 10 tons, Captain America who is enhanced Human, is over 800-1100lbs) and has his spider sense.

Justice League should be compared to Avengers, but with the Xmen, which line up? Early 90s Jim Lee Xmen? Or current?

[954Stealth]

X-Tinction Agenda Era Xmen

[Samurai of 2day]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Superman would beat Goku - and I'm a DIE HARD Goku fan.

SpiderMan would make quick work of Batman. He's faster (he can literally dodge bullets) Stronger ( He can lift over 10 tons, Captain America who is enhanced Human, is over 800-1100lbs) and has his spider sense.

Justice League should be compared to Avengers, but with the Xmen, which line up? Early 90s Jim Lee Xmen? Or current?

I agree with you.

I believe Superman would eventually beat Goku, even though I would prefer Goku win that match.

Spiderman would definitely beat Batman in a physical fight, but then again Batman has used his resourcefulness to defeat more powerful enemies as well... but Spiderman has proven to be quite resouceful as well... these two would make for a very close and entertaining / suspenseful fight.

You are right about the Avengers vs The Justice League making for a better match up. I just prefer the X-Men over the Avengers. My personal opinion, of course. To answer your question, I had the early-mid 90's incarnation of the X-Men in Mind.

Either way, I am sure we will start seeing these cross over movies pop up in abour 10-15 years once they get tired of recycling the top Marvel/DC characters... similar to how we started to get the Freddy vs Jason and Alien vs Predator movies that people would only imagine 10-15 years ago, lol.

BTW, if you haven't already done so, you should check out the "Death Battle" sequences on Youtube... seems like you like these out of universe match ups!

[954Stealth]

Superman vs the Hulk
Batman vs Captain America
Flash vs Quicksilver

Avengers vs Justice League might be done but in a long time, like towards 2030
Everything is already planned out until 2028 and DC needs BatVSSup - which is basically a JLA starter to do well or their cinematic universe is dead in the water

[Myrder]

Originally Posted by 954Stealth

Superman vs the Hulk
Batman vs Captain America
Flash vs Quicksilver

Avengers vs Justice League might be done but in a long time, like towards 2030
Everything is already planned out until 2028 and DC needs BatVSSup - which is basically a JLA starter to do well or their cinematic universe is dead in the water

oh no don't start it. Superman vs. Hulk has 1000s of threads ou there haha. Which Hulk? WorldBreaker?

Batman - W
Flash - W

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Samurai of 2day

I agree with you.

I believe Superman would eventually beat Goku, even though I would prefer Goku win that match.

Spiderman would definitely beat Batman in a physical fight, but then again Batman has used his resourcefulness to defeat more powerful enemies as well... but Spiderman has proven to be quite resouceful as well... these two would make for a very close and entertaining / suspenseful fight.

You are right about the Avengers vs The Justice League making for a better match up. I just prefer the X-Men over the Avengers. My personal opinion, of course. To answer your question, I had the early-mid 90's incarnation of the X-Men in Mind.

Either way, I am sure we will start seeing these cross over movies pop up in abour 10-15 years once they get tired of recycling the top Marvel/DC characters... similar to how we started to get the Freddy vs Jason and Alien vs Predator movies that people would only imagine 10-15 years ago, lol.

BTW, if you haven't already done so, you should check out the "Death Battle" sequences on Youtube... seems like you like these out of universe match ups!

Death battle did a matchup of Batman and Spider-Man, Batman lost. And rightfully so: Batman is made out to be near godlike because he has "prep time" and yet he's been trashed by Slade (Deathstroke) how many times and broken by Bane.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Myrder

oh no don't start it. Superman vs. Hulk has 1000s of threads ou there haha. Which Hulk? WorldBreaker?

Batman - W
Flash - W

Uhhh, Captain America has a photographic memory, can actually dodge bullets and is Batman's physical superior in every way. Oh, and the shield is indestructible and can be used offensively.

Sure, Batman has stood up to some tough dudes, but so has Captain America, he's an Avenger and nothing about thier enemies says "street level fighter"

[Litos]

Michael Keaton was and still will be the best Batman ever....

best Joker = Jack Nicholson

best Catwoman = Michelle Pfeiffer

[954Stealth]

I just watched to movie Neighbors and theres a scene about Keaton vs Bale

Bale: "YOU KILLED THE WOMAN I LOVE SO IM GONNA GET YOU!! IM BATMAN!!"
Keaton: "Hey. Im batman."

[Benstuck]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Longer than you've been fan of DeadPool j/k. I'm more of an Xman/Xforce guy, but you have to respect Captian America - the movies did renforce that he's pretty cool.

And for the Bat cars are an embarrassment except for Bales - but honestly, Bale's Batman is no match for movie Captain America. I just think Batman's superpowers and abilities are from writers making him godlike, which is quite annoying.

You know, I was about to debate your statement, but you have an interesting point about the plot. But that can be said for any character if you think about it.

[Myrder]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Uhhh, Captain America has a photographic memory, can actually dodge bullets and is Batman's physical superior in every way. Oh, and the shield is indestructible and can be used offensively.

Sure, Batman has stood up to some tough dudes, but so has Captain America, he's an Avenger and nothing about thier enemies says "street level fighter"

I mean, no gadgets/weapons I'll go with Cap. If you allow gadgets and weapons Batman all day. Batman can just freeze Cap...that seems to give him problems.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Myrder

I mean, no gadgets/weapons I'll go with Cap. If you allow gadgets and weapons Batman all day. Batman can just freeze Cap...that seems to give him problems.

I lol'd a little - but seriously, Batman isn't a match for Cap with Gadgets. You're talking about a guy who can fight toe to toe with Iron Man.

[Myrder]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

I lol'd a little - but seriously, Batman isn't a match for Cap with Gadgets. You're talking about a guy who can fight toe to toe with Iron Man.

You know Batman has fought Superman right? And in Frank Miller's universe won. Not saying that is canon. I think Superman is a hell of a lot stronger than Cap.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Myrder

You know Batman has fought Superman right? And in Frank Miller's universe won. Not saying that is canon. I think Superman is a hell of a lot stronger than Cap.

Frank Miller hates Superman.
Seriously, I don't think anyone here believes for a second Batman could beat Superman, but Plot Induced Stupidity says otherwise. Now we have people running around screaming "Because Batman" believing Batman can beat anyone, while he simultaneously gets his ass kicked by Cat woman and other street level fighters.

[Taskmaster]

You can tell I'm bitter.

[954Stealth]

3 things Bruce has over Clark:

1. Intelligence
2. Resources
3. The willingness to go farther - although yes i know Superman killed General Zod in Man of Steel, I am referring to the source material.


How about this matchup:
Batman vs Spawn

[Myrder]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Frank Miller hates Superman.
Seriously, I don't think anyone here believes for a second Batman could beat Superman, but Plot Induced Stupidity says otherwise. Now we have people running around screaming "Because Batman" believing Batman can beat anyone, while he simultaneously gets his ass kicked by Cat woman and other street level fighters.

I'm just saying I think you place too much weight in strength. Clearly Batman is on the level of Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman and the rest of the Justice League because he is a part of it. His intelligence, fighting skills, and ability to analyze any situation makes him who he is.