[LivingInSalt]

Originally Posted by BobHen

quickly downshifting 2 gears going into a corner then up 2 and pulling hard coming out, and without any backend movement whatsoever.

Damn, that sucks

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by BobHen

What did I do to my 2022 G42 M240i Xdrive today?

I drove the crap out of it this morning. I was out at 630am. With the holiday, there were no or very few cars on the road. 60-80MPH through an industrial park and back roads…

If you found it engaging in an industrial park, wait until you’re alone in a canyon!

[BobHen]

Originally Posted by LivingInSalt

Damn, that sucks

Been there done that. I'm not a teenager. BMW's rear biased Xdrive is much better. That is, if you value pure rocket-like performance and never having to compensate or slow down or make corrections while taking sharp corners at speed. Of course, with a RWD car there is a certain thrill in taking a sharp corner at speed and surviving. But, as I said, been there done that.

Bob

[LivingInSalt]

Why does the “rear biased” xDrive not wear out the rear tires faster than the fronts?

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by LivingInSalt

Why does the “rear biased” xDrive not wear out the rear tires faster than the fronts?

My OEM tires had 1/32 less tread on the rears when I took then off at around 8,000 miles.

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by LivingInSalt

Why does the “rear biased” xDrive not wear out the rear tires faster than the fronts?

Front does the steering, more friction.

[Bandit009]

Originally Posted by BobHen

What did I do to my 2022 G42 M240i Xdrive today?

I drove the crap out of it this morning. I was out at 630am. With the holiday, there were no or very few cars on the road. 60-80MPH through an industrial park and back roads while quickly downshifting 2 gears going into a corner then up 2 and pulling hard coming out, and without any backend movement whatsoever.

Manual smanual! Anyone who says the BMW M240i B58 ZF8 Xdrive needs a manual to make it engaging (whatever that means) isn't driving/pushing the car hard enough. You can't time shifts nearly as precisely in a manual as you can with a modern, fast, paddle-shifting auto. The powerful B58, ZF8 auto and BMW's surefooted, RWD biased Xdrive are a very potent combination indeed.

After a year of ownership, the car still and always impresses.

Bob

For the price, and having two extra seats even if they’re tiny, I don’t think you can find anything close in performance. With that said, I took out my analogue’04 330i with 6 spd manual for a ride this morning. It’s a special experience. The brake feedback, the steering feedback, using the left foot synchronized with the gas pedal and shifter. It’s nostalgic. We are moving on to the era of land speeders. Drive, brake, and steer by wire. In that world, the 240i is quite good. The ZF is a wonderful transmission and the B58 is silky smooth. The low end pull is nuts. And yes, I agree I can’t shift with my manual as fast as the ZF. But, that’s ok.

[TheGeekGuy]

Fitted SprintBooster to remove the dead feeling in the pedal. Luckily, since MINI is part of BMW they used the same connector on the G42 as they did on the F56.

[KJ10]

Originally Posted by Bandit009

For the price, and having two extra seats even if they’re tiny, I don’t think you can find anything close in performance. \

Besides, late model Mustangs and Camaros.

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by KJ10

Besides, late model Mustangs and Camaros.

I'm betting driver for driver and stock for stock the Camaro SS 1LE will beat the G87 M2 on the track, so it will definitely beat the G42. But at the end of the day you're driving home in a Camaro (which isn't exactly all that bad).

The G42 is the whole package if you're not wanting hardcore track duty.

[KJ10]

Originally Posted by XC3LLR8

I'm betting driver for driver and stock for stock the Camaro SS 1LE will beat the G87 M2 on the track, so it will definitely beat the G42. But at the end of the day you're driving home in a Camaro (which isn't exactly all that bad).

The G42 is the whole package if you're not wanting hardcore track duty.

I completely agree. My brother just picked up a new 1SS 1LE and it was much better than I expected. The mag ride suspension is great and and the grip from the 305s really puts down the power. For an everyday driver I would always take my M240 though. I plan on racing him next time we are together but I don't have high hopes.

[TheGeekGuy]

Got my windows and tail lights tinted and fitted a SprintBooster.

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by KJ10

I completely agree. My brother just picked up a new 1SS 1LE and it was much better than I expected. The mag ride suspension is great and and the grip from the 305s really puts down the power. For an everyday driver I would always take my M240 though. I plan on racing him next time we are together but I don't have high hopes.

You should beat him pretty easy from a light. Highway may be close. Track you’ll get destroyed. From showroom to track all it needs is brake fluid and pads to dominate.

I had a 2020 1SS 1LE. Gave it to my 21 year old son who tracked it until the consumables became too much for his Air Force pay.

[KJ10]

Originally Posted by XC3LLR8

You should beat him pretty easy from a light. Highway may be close. Track you’ll get destroyed. From showroom to track all it needs is brake fluid and pads to dominate.

I had a 2020 1SS 1LE. Gave it to my 21 year old son who tracked it until the consumables became too much for his Air Force pay.

Very cool I appreciate the insight from someone who has spent considerable time in both. Thank your son for his service, hopefully he can get it back on the track.

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by KJ10

Very cool I appreciate the insight from someone who has spent considerable time in both. Thank your son for his service, hopefully he can get it back on the track.

Thanks. He ended up being a driver on a M3 team after the owner invited him to drive the car and he beat the owner's time by nearly 2 seconds. LOL He occasionally instructs on weekends and even set a couple track records for his category in the M3. He still swears by the 1LE for what it's capable of with virtually no mods and its ability to run all day long in Arizona heat with zero heating issues.

[StickyPickle]

Originally Posted by XC3LLR8

I'm betting driver for driver and stock for stock the Camaro SS 1LE will beat the G87 M2 on the track, so it will definitely beat the G42.

Throttle House just did a lap time for the M2 and it was quicker (not by much) than the Camaro. They use a lap that it is pretty twisty and not much straight aways so that definitely doesn’t help a car that weighs as much as the new M2 does.
What’s impressive is the M2’s lap time was just behind the ZL1’s time by only .07 seconds.

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by StickyPickle

Throttle House just did a lap time for the M2 and it was quicker (not by much) than the Camaro. They use a lap that it is pretty twisty and not much straight aways so that definitely doesn’t help a car that weighs as much as the new M2 does.
What’s impressive is the M2’s lap time was just behind the ZL1’s time by only .07 seconds.

Must say I'm surprised the new M2 beat the Camaro SS 1LE, even if it's only by .39 seconds (and $30K more). Curious how the lap times would compare after a full session where the M2 has to bow to heat soak?

I wish they'd throw some Cup 2's on the M240i and see what it runs. It may be a little too close for comfort to the G87 M2.

Edit: Doesn't look like the Supra was on Cup 2's. May explain why it didn't beat the G87 M2 like it did in a previous test.

[StickyPickle]

And just to contribute to this thread, I just traded in my 2022 M240 Xdrive for a G87 M2. The M240 is a nice car and it’s hard to beat what it offers for the price but I just didn’t enjoy driving it like I hoped I would.

It wasn’t so much the car, it just made me realize how much I missed driving a rear wheel drive, manual transmission car. Also in the looks department, I know everyone’s been shitting on the new M2.

When I first saw pics of the G42, I definitely wasn’t feeling the way it looked until I saw one irl. I don’t know why but pics doesn’t really show off how nice it looks irl. Same goes for the G87, I reserved judgment until seeing one irl because I was underwhelmed after seeing those leaked pics. I eventually saw one in Zandvoort Blue and even though that color isn’t my cup of tea, I had the same feelings as I did when I saw the G42 irl compared to pics. It has a much better presence and look irI and I prefer it over the G42 in that department.

All in all, they’re both great cars that offers something for everyone depending on what you’re looking for.

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by JoseSportM

What’s next ? 😅

Come on, I’m bursting to know what you’ve done ruin your car even more

What was the mod?

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by StickyPickle

And just to contribute to this thread, I just traded in my 2022 M240 Xdrive for a G87 M2. The M240 is a nice car and it’s hard to beat what it offers for the price but I just didn’t enjoy driving it like I hoped I would.

It wasn’t so much the car, it just made me realize how much I missed driving a rear wheel drive, manual transmission car. Also in the looks department, I know everyone’s been shitting on the new M2.

When I first saw pics of the G42, I definitely wasn’t feeling the way it looked until I saw one irl. I don’t know why but pics doesn’t really show off how nice it looks irl. Same goes for the G87, I reserved judgment until seeing one irl because I was underwhelmed after seeing those leaked pics. I eventually saw one in Zandvoort Blue and even though that color isn’t my cup of tea, I had the same feelings as I did when I saw the G42 irl compared to pics. It has a much better presence and look irI and I prefer it over the G42 in that department.

All in all, they’re both great cars that offers something for everyone depending on what you’re looking for.

How's the 'around town' acceleration compare between the G42 xDrive and G87? Will the G42 hold its own?

[StickyPickle]

Originally Posted by XC3LLR8

How's the 'around town' acceleration compare between the G42 xDrive and G87? Will the G42 hold its own?

Haven’t done too much with it aside from driving home from the dealership and running a few errands so far. Plus I haven’t pushed it too hard yet because of not doing the 1,200 mile break in service but I will say it really comes alive after you hit 3,500-4,000 RPM and pulls insanely hard. Definitely can feel the top end pulls harder than my M240 did.

One gripe about the manual version M2 is some reviewers have said it feels dead in the lower RPM ranges. I was kinda expecting that given the S58 isn’t as torquey in the lower range compared to say a B58 or S55. Going by dyno numbers, I don’t think the S58 in the M2 is less powerful than the M3/M4 but I think BMW has tuned the torque curve for the M2 on a higher RPM range than the M3/M4.

I would say the “around town” butt dyno advantage goes to the M240 because of the B58 having more available torque in the lower revs (especially with X-drive) but keeping the M2 in higher revs while shifting feels intoxicating so far.

[Pentland]