[3RDSECTOR]

Originally Posted by Game

I was curious as to what you drove so I took a peek at your threads. You're a first generation X1 kinda guy and I see that you had a similar problem with the new gen X1 as well. Fact is that looks like a 20 year old car now. If they repeat those design cues BMW falls behind.

It may not appeal to you but this is the future. Clean, subtle lines are a thing of the past. Either keep up or get left behind!

An X1 owner critiquing any design has to be the funniest thing I've seen all year.

[xugator]

So the really cool 19 inch wheels style 893M that is shown in most of the launch pics do not show up as an available option on the US pricing and option guide on the first page. Are those wheels not going to be available on the US?

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by 3RDSECTOR

An X1 owner critiquing any design has to be the funniest thing I've seen all year.

Right? Like you know what I own...

Not to mention, whatever somebody owns, he/she can have an opinion.

This shows what poor judgement some people have...
Only a very narrow minded individual thinks like that...!

BTW, what a sad world you are leaving in... Glad to make you smile.

PS
I presume you have no ideea what E84 actually is and what is the difference between that one and the new ones... Or not even the awards in design...
But hey... carry on...

[BMWGirlFL]

https://www.bmw.gr/content/dam/bmw/m...5813540672.pdf

German:
https://www.bmw-hubauer.de/kataloge-...Preisliste.pdf

[BimmerTom94]

I recently seen the new 2 series coupe at Goodwood, I made this quick video on the exterior and interior if anyone wishes to see it up close?

[MParallel]

Lights be like

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I admit that the car's looks are starting to grow on me (unlike the 4 series). I mean the side profile I already like from the get-go but the front and rear I'm starting to come around to. It definitely looks like a 2 would.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by abdulbata

Power dome on the 230i and m240i but not on the g8X cars? This is so backwards :/

Originally Posted by FaRKle!

I'm confused why the M240i gets "M-Winglet" mirrors and a power dome hood too. Not reserved for true M-cars anymore?

Originally Posted by stefan

And... a power dome? On a non M car??

Originally Posted by someMoreMplease

Proportions are great IMO. But, M mirrors for the Mperformance and apparently power dome hoods on all 2 series cars- that’s weird.

Originally Posted by NYAWE60

Also, is that a power dome I see??? How did they take that away from the M3/M4 but then put in on a non M car lol.

There used to be a time when a power dome still served the purpose of allowing some extra 'head room' for an engine shoehorned inside an engine bay.

Over time a power dome appears to have become a design feature, regardless of functionality. Some even retrofit a hood featuring a power dome merely for design purposes on a car not needing one.

So to all those wondering why the G42 M240i features a power dome: without it, the hood doesn't close.

[abc]

Originally Posted by Artemis

There used to be a time when a power dome still served the purpose of allowing some extra 'head room' for an engine shoehorned inside an engine bay.

Over time a power dome appears to have become a design feature, regardless of functionality. Some even retrofit a hood featuring a power dome merely for design purposes on a car not needing one.

So to all those wondering why the G42 M240i features a power dome: without it, the hood doesn't close.


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because its the car's equivalent of having a bulge in the jeans.

[abc]

I dont care for the integrated taillpipe design as I like them rounded like my angel eyes, but I can see the lines

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Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

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wow, I like that color, which is this?

[abc]

Originally Posted by Transfer

Basically G20 sunroof. This is a 440i in a smaller (but insignificantly lighter) package which is pretty great.

i for one, hope there is a sunrood delete option. i dont care for one.

[abc]

Originally Posted by J-RO

I cannot in good conscience buy any car with a dash like that.

it's the wave of the future for cars all over and of all EV vehicles already which are also in our future, its cheaper and less time consuming to just manufacture a car with slapping a wide touch panel that provides an adaptable access of a wide amount of information and control to a never ending list of various vehicular systems. I'll appreciate some dedicated knobs and buttons still but the idrive 18 yrs ago was the beginnings of the push for consolidation prior to touch screen technology becoming common technology.

[am3r1ka]

I noticed lack of 48V mild hybrid system. Will the 2series not get it at all? No complaining because I prefer it that way but just double checking.

[bobloblaw]

[AlpineBoost]

Originally Posted by bobloblaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SHRhN76BIc

Some great quotes from this one, but I think my favorite is,

"Would you say this car was designed in the dark?"

[Game]

Originally Posted by bobloblaw

And that's why this guy doesn't design cars anymore, because he's stuck in the past.

[..Rush..]

But I would agree with you on this.
He seems to forget that he had to think "outside of the box" when he designed the McLaren, Ferrari, and the BMW X. Current designers are paid to create.

Originally Posted by Game

And that's why this guy doesn't design cars anymore, because he's stuck in the past.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by ..Rush..

But I would agree with you on this.
He seems to forget that he had to think "outside of the box" when he designed the McLaren, Ferrari, and the BMW X. Current designers are paid to create.

He's not faulting BMW for thinking outside of the box. Instead, this complaint echoes what everyone has been saying on this forum - it seems like BMW's designs are overdoing it for shits and giggles.

Few points that everyone has mentioned:

Joint kidney grilles - Why? It's a small detail that doesn't add anything to the design and on the 2er, it actually sticks out and not in a good way.

Body lines/creases/surfaces - way too much going on. BMW designs are usually clean. Front bumper of the 2er and 4er is way too busy, not just with weird shapes and huge vents but with creases and lines throughout the entire bumper. This is present on all sides of the vehicles.

I can go on, but that's pretty much the argument against BMW design today. It's over designing something and marketing it as aggressive and bold.

[zipstic]

When are we going to be able to build one on bmwusa.com? I thought the 2 was supposed to go into production in August. It's been up on bmw.de for quite awhile now.

[Game]

Originally Posted by zipstic

When are we going to be able to build one on bmwusa.com? I thought the 2 was supposed to go into production in August. It's been up on bmw.de for quite awhile now.

The 2 series starts production on September 2nd and dealers should be getting October allocations. I'd hope the BMWUSA site allows us to build them sooner rather than later...but considering they've just switched the X5 builder to a 2022 just a couple days ago...and those cars have been in production since the beginning of this month, I have my doubts.

I should be getting my hands on pricing/ordering guides in the next week or so and I'll share with the community (though I'm sure someone will have one any day now).

[zipstic]

Originally Posted by Game

The 2 series starts production on September 2nd and dealers should be getting October allocations. I'd hope the BMWUSA site allows us to build them sooner rather than later...but considering they've just switched the X5 builder to a 2022 just a couple days ago...and those cars have been in production since the beginning of this month, I have my doubts.

I should be getting my hands on pricing/ordering guides in the next week or so and I'll share with the community (though I'm sure someone will have one any day now).

Thanks for the info! Please do share if you get access to the ordering guides.