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      08-26-2022, 08:06 PM   #5281
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Meh, I wouldn't mind a nice MB or BMW station wagon. Saw many of them screaming by on the Autobahn last time I was in Germany. Always black, for some reason.
Funnily enough I’ve just bought one
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      08-26-2022, 08:52 PM   #5283
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Funnily enough I’ve just bought one
Steering wheel is on the wrong side.
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Steering wheel is on the wrong side.
Never did it myself but I've heard people say it's pretty easy getting used to driving on the other side, as well as the shifter and clutch on the other side and of course the other side of the road.
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Never did it myself but I've heard people say it's pretty easy getting used to driving on the other side, as well as the shifter and clutch on the other side and of course the other side of the road.
Add that to driving on the wrong side of the road, and we'll see. LOL!
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Never did it myself but I've heard people say it's pretty easy getting used to driving on the other side, as well as the shifter and clutch on the other side and of course the other side of the road.
I found a bunch of YouTube vids of a driver's license test drive that covered most situations one would encounter. There were 6 vids in all, IIRC. Before we flew to the UK, I watched those vids over and over and even watched them again on the flight over. By the time I got there and picked up the car, I had a pretty good feel for driving on the left. I rented an automatic, though. Trying to shift with my left hand was a step too far. The hardest parts about driving in the UK were the narrow roads with hedges right up to the pavement and people parking on the side of the road, which forced you into the oncoming lane. Even when I had the right-of-way, the Brits would come barreling through anyway as if they were daring me to stand my ground and get hit. But I've made it through 4 or 5 trips where we rented a car and so far I've come through unscathed.
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Wonder if M5Rick has ever driven over here and if he found it easy to get used to driving on the other side of the car and the other side of the road. What say you, Rick?
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Haha, this is going to be an interesting debate. I would replace the word correct with the word right.

I have always found it useful to have the steering wheel on the drivers side!
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Haha, this is going to be an interesting debate. I would replace the word correct with the word right.

I have always found it useful to have the steering wheel on the drivers side!
That is why above I say "the other side" because it depends on where you live. There is no wrong side if thought of that way.
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I found a bunch of YouTube vids of a driver's license test drive that covered most situations one would encounter. There were 6 vids in all, IIRC. Before we flew to the UK, I watched those vids over and over and even watched them again on the flight over. By the time I got there and picked up the car, I had a pretty good feel for driving on the left. I rented an automatic, though. Trying to shift with my left hand was a step too far. The hardest parts about driving in the UK were the narrow roads with hedges right up to the pavement and people parking on the side of the road, which forced you into the oncoming lane. Even when I had the right-of-way, the Brits would come barreling through anyway as if they were daring me to stand my ground and get hit. But I've made it through 4 or 5 trips where we rented a car and so far I've come through unscathed.
I rent manual transmission cars when I travel to the UK. I find that having to shift with my left hand (which takes about 2 seconds to get used to for me), is a constant reminder that things are different. The one time I rented an automatic I was much more concerned about forgetting to stay on the left.

All the pedals are in the same spot. If they were backwards too I'd do a hard pass.
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When I worked at Jaguar HQ in the UK in the mid-80’s, we had to go through an advanced driving test to drive Jags. There were 4 levels of permit and various checks you had to do before even starting the car (as they could be engineering vehicles) but ultimately as North America was the biggest market at the time, we had to go out in left hand drive manuals. I was in IT, but still had to do the same test as the engineers.

I have also driven right hand drive cars on the continent, and what a pain that was, as all the toll booths and car parks are geared up for left hand drive cars.

My learning is go abroad, hire a car - so much simpler.

However, if we were going to Ireland, or a family trip through France/Germany with at least 2 in the car, I would take the 7.
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Haha, this is going to be an interesting debate. I would replace the word correct with the word right.

I have always found it useful to have the steering wheel on the drivers side!
The reason for travelling on the left dates back to the middle ages, when you passed another traveller you would pass on the right keeping your sword arm free to engage the other traveller should you need to, hence the CORRECT side
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The reason for travelling on the left dates back to the middle ages, when you passed another traveller you would pass on the right keeping your sword arm free to engage the other traveller should you need to, hence the CORRECT side

Keeping on theme, you know you are old when you refer to the Middle Ages and swords as a basis for your argument.

In addition to your fine point, it's also true that the steering wheel was first introduced by Panhard in 1894 in a racing car and then in regular production cars the following year. These steering wheels were on the right side of the car!

I know I'm old when I have the time to look all this crap up on The Google and post about it!
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