[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by techwhiz1

I'll get my deposit back if that happens and order an individual paint and interior M4.

My car clocks in at $84k including M HAS.
Add 25% and my car is $105k. Nope!

I can get into an M4 for about $98k with M HAS, Venetian Violet, Tartufo carbon buckets, etc.

In two weeks I'll know.

What happens in 2 weeks?

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

What happens in 2 weeks?

We know if there are actually tarrifs imposed as he said. He seems hell bent on moving forward with all his threats.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by techwhiz1

We know if there are actually tarrifs imposed as he said. He seems hell bent on moving forward with all his threats.

I think it could just be posturing. BMW does make a lot of SUVs in South Carolina. Also, if my build week is really in May, I am guessing I will get my car in July? I think that is a fair amount of time to see how this all plays out. I hope anyway.

[Bimmer Frank]

Originally Posted by torentmonkey

So 25% on Mexico stuff from 1st of February. That would have the MSRP on the end good from 65 500 at 82 000. Damn.

I'm another hoping he is just posturing, I'm currently scheduled for build week 7 and delivery in April. Hopefully this is all settled before I take delivery, if not I will not be taking delivery which would make me sad!

[mike5809]

Originally Posted by torentmonkey

So 25% on Mexico stuff from 1st of February. That would have the MSRP on the end good from 65 500 at 82 000. Damn.

There is no indication that tarrifs start February 1st from what I've seen. Can you post a link?

[Bimmer Frank]

Originally Posted by mike5809

There is no indication that tarrifs start February 1st from what I've seen. Can you post a link?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/20/econo...der/index.html

[mike5809]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Frank

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/20/economy/tariffs-trump-executive-order/index.html

Threatens. Not imposed yet. Still optimistic he cant push this through, at least that fast.

[AdonisP91]

Let’s say the tariffs do go through, if I already signed a contract and paid my deposit, my prices should be locked in correct? Only people ordering and signing contracts after the tariffs would have to pay the extra costs?

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by mike5809

Threatens. Not imposed yet. Still optimistic he cant push this through, at least that fast.

He can actually push it through that fast. He's shown he doesn't care about process.

BMW would definitely ask for an exemption.

A 25% tarrif on Canada and Mexico would decimate the industry he says he's trying to help. Just about every US based car company and quite a few foreign based, manufacture, source parts and assemblies from Canada and Mexico. AutoZone, O'Reilly along with other parts suppliers will need to raise prices.

[M2M3M3]

Originally Posted by AdonisP91

Let’s say the tariffs do go through, if I already signed a contract and paid my deposit, my prices should be locked in correct? Only people ordering and signing contracts after the tariffs would have to pay the extra costs?

Not likely. Bmw isn't going to absorb a $15k loss on all these cars. They can cancel the sale, return deposits and sell them in a different market than the US.

The import taxes could be a bluff, but the pile of horrific orders he already signed say otherwise.

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by M2M3M3

Not likely. Bmw isn't going to absorb a $15k loss on all these cars. They can cancel the sale, return deposits and sell them in a different market than the US.

The import taxes could be a bluff, but the pile of horrific orders he already signed say otherwise.

I got confirmation from the broker that if tarrifs go into place, I can wait to see if BMW gets an exemption or get my deposit back.

If they actually go into effect, I'm just going to get an M4 and call it a day.

This isn't political but tarrifs are a crap show and will decimate the auto industry.
Parts from the US cross into Canada and Mexico and go into cars that are imported into the US. Parts that go into Canadian cars come from Mexico and travel through the US and the reverse is also true. This is an unmitigated mess if he does it.

[BradMX5]

If they get imposed then manufacturers should just do what Buick does to avoid tariffs.

Manufactured in China, assembled in Korea, then shipped to the US as a quality American made car.

[BMWCompact]

Originally Posted by M2M3M3

Not likely. Bmw isn't going to absorb a $15k loss on all these cars. They can cancel the sale, return deposits and sell them in a different market than the US.

Agree on your first point, that BMW will likely not be willing to absorb a 25% hit.

Questionable on your suggestion that BMW could sell a US-spec car in another market(s). I certainly do not have any expert knowledge on this point, however, I’m not sure what other markets would accept a US spec car and have it be legal for sale in any countries/territories outside of the US.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by BMWCompact

Agree on your first point, that BMW will likely not be willing to absorb a 25% hit.

Questionable on your suggestion that BMW could sell a US-spec car in another market(s). I certainly do not have any expert knowledge on this point, however, I’m not sure what other markets would accept a US spec car and have it be legal for sale in any countries/territories outside of the US.

Canadian G87s are generally just a software config change from a US car to give a metric dash, besides a slightly wider option set offered here.

[BMWCompact]

Originally Posted by aerobod

Canadian G87s are generally just a software config change from a US car to give a metric dash, besides a slightly wider option set offered here.

Do US-sourced cars sold in Canada, enthusiast cars like Porsche and BMW, typically sell at a discount compared to the same cars originally sold in Canada?

We see this in the US, where, for example, a Spyder RS originally sold in Canada, while legal to import to the US, will sell at a discount compared to a Spyder RS originally sold in the US.

[M2M3M3]

Originally Posted by BMWCompact

Agree on your first point, that BMW will likely not be willing to absorb a 25% hit.

Questionable on your suggestion that BMW could sell a US-spec car in another market(s). I certainly do not have any expert knowledge on this point, however, I’m not sure what other markets would accept a US spec car and have it be legal for sale in any countries/territories outside of the US.

these cars are just computers. that makes them cheaper to produce as they don't have to have many, physical changes for different markets. just a different software load to enable/require different functions to meet different laws.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by BMWCompact

Do US-sourced cars sold in Canada, enthusiast cars like Porsche and BMW, typically sell at a discount compared to the same cars originally sold in Canada?

We see this in the US, where, for example, a Spyder RS originally sold in Canada, while legal to import to the US, will sell at a discount compared to a Spyder RS originally sold in the US.

Only if it is a used vehicle and not Canadian spec. New vehicles initially registered in Canada that have a fully metric dash wouldn’t be reduced in price (other than the fact that new BMWs are somewhat cheaper here than in the US at the moment).

My son spent many years exporting used pickups from Alberta to Arizona and California dealers. With the metric instrument cluster swapped to a US cluster, a CAD$50k truck would typically generate $5k in profit after transportation costs, selling for USD$50k or so in the destination US market. Basically cross border sales don’t necessarily mean lower prices.