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      08-29-2021, 10:36 AM   #617
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Talk about luck.
Amazing job by the mechanics but in the end I don’t think it’s going to matter.
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      08-29-2021, 10:36 AM   #618
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If Perez starts (from the pit lane). It sounds like he will also be 1 lap down since he didn't complete the 1 lap under the safety car that everyone else has.
It’s interesting as they haven’t confirmed one way or the other…

Based on what was just heard in the conversation between the stewards and McLaren trying to confirm the laps remaining they indicated 39 laps…so not sure how Checo could only be one lap down

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      08-29-2021, 10:39 AM   #619
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So Race will end at 6pm regardless of what time they start.
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It’s interesting as they haven’t confirmed one way or the other…

Based on what was just heard in the conversation between the stewards and McLaren trying to confirm the laps remaining they indicated 39 laps…so not sure how Checo could only be one lap down

Clear as the visibility at the track today
Yes definitely interesting and sounds like there is no precedence as it has never happened before.

I think the delayed starts that they mentioned are removed from the total race distance. So those laps may not count for Checo being down. Only the laps completed under the safety car counted.

Now they are saying they aren't sure if there was officially a race start or not. That matters because if they don't restart the race, no points will be granted.

But if the race did officially start under the safety car then for race classification the race does count with 50% points awarded to the drivers.

It sounds like the time countdown already started. But the count down doesn't start unless the race has already started. So it's kinda odd that there is no clarity on if the race has officially started.

My opinion, is until the rolling start happens, or the standing start lights out. The race hasn't officially started, but I don't know the rules on rolling race starts under a safety car.
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My opinion, is until the rolling start happens, or the standing start lights out. The race hasn't officially started, but I don't know the rules on rolling race starts under a safety car.
Completely agree
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It's going to get dark soon so maybe yeah have it tomorrow.
Tomorrow the weather forecast is also rain ..

This is how 'Spa currently looks like in the next 2 hours !
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Talk about luck.
Luck ?
Honestly .That's for your Hammy only !

Regarding Checo's car , that's a great job by the Red Bull crew ..
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Luck ?
Honestly .That's for your Hammy only !

Regarding Checo's car , that's a great job by the Red Bull crew ..
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what a dangerous event.
FTFY
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FTFY
Times like these make me wish F1 was more like nascar, where they are a bit more flexible when it comes to moving the race a day or two if needed.
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Honestly .That's for your Hammy only !

Regarding Checo's car , that's a great job by the Red Bull crew ..
haha, how is that not the same type of luck?
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Good call to not start. I love that F1 races in the rain but this is nuts.

Max saying it isn’t that bad just adds to his me me me reputation.
Mate . MAX is born in the rain !
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haha, how is that not the same type of luck?
•Hammy's luck falls from the sky and is always been pushed by the FIA's Red Flag .
•Checo's luck is been made by the sweat of the Red Bull crew ...
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I feel sorry for the spectators. Horrible weather, no racing and the worst is yet to come.
The situation at the parking lots is real bad, grass has turned into mud and cars are stuck. On Dutch TV they say that people have even parked their cars on the shoulder of the highway. Expect a massive traffic gridlock.
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haha, how is that not the same type of luck?
•Hammy's luck falls from the sky and is always been pushed by the FIA's Red Flag .
•Checo's luck is been made by the sweat of the Red Bull crew ...
So literally has nothing do with the fact that the rain delay allowed them to fix the car.

Right …not luck.
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Sounds like checo is good to race if his car is fixed
The FIA-RBR Cabal.

If he starts the race from the pit lane he will finish the race with 5 fewer laps than the other cars on the track.

How can this work?

Will he have to un-lap himself under a safety car start? Will he be allowed to finish a race with fewer laps than the competitors?

A BS ruling.
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Sounds like checo is good to race if his car is fixed
The FIA-RBR Cabal.

If he starts the race from the pit lane he will finish the race with 5 fewer laps than the other cars on the track.

How can this work?

Will he have to un-lap himself under a safety car start? Will he be allowed to finish a race with fewer laps than the competitors?

A BS ruling.
There's no confirmation yet but I think he'll only be down one lap.
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Yes definitely interesting and sounds like there is no precedence as it has never happened before.

I think the delayed starts that they mentioned are removed from the total race distance. So those laps may not count for Checo being down. Only the laps completed under the safety car counted.

Now they are saying they aren't sure if there was officially a race start or not. That matters because if they don't restart the race, no points will be granted.

But if the race did officially start under the safety car then for race classification the race does count with 50% points awarded to the drivers.

It sounds like the time countdown already started. But the count down doesn't start unless the race has already started. So it's kinda odd that there is no clarity on if the race has officially started.

My opinion, is until the rolling start happens, or the standing start lights out. The race hasn't officially started, but I don't know the rules on rolling race starts under a safety car.
This was settled by Masi which causes a perplexing situation. They are on lap 39 now, per Masi. Checo has completed exactly Zero of those laps. As I stated in an earlier post, will he be allowed to un-lap himself or will he simply be credited for those laps?

It's a mess and RBR is getting preference from the FIA.
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There's no confirmation yet but I think he'll only be down one lap.
I believe this is what will occur but it wouldn't be correct per precedence and the sporting regulations.
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Interesting update (source BBC):
17:06

Michael Masi is the most in-demand man in F1 today. He tells Ferrari that the 'hard' finish time limit of 6pm local time (17:00 BST) is not the case any more and the three-hour clock to get the race done has been 'stopped'.

They're doing everything they can. It still might not change anything.
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