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      08-16-2023, 03:23 PM   #617
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I was looking at these and maybe some HRE 507s since they look pretty much the same. I think these type of wide spoke wheels would look pretty damn great on a G87 given how it looks like a DTM race car. Please post some more pics if you can. These are dope.
Totally agree! Can’t wait for the new ones to get here!
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      08-16-2023, 08:58 PM   #618
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Removed the charcoal air filters
Did you notice any change?

What is the purpose of this filter?
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      08-17-2023, 08:58 AM   #620
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Did you notice any change?

What is the purpose of this filter?
To be honest I believe any gains from a any mods to these air intakes are minimal at best. If the DME ever needs more air it can easily adjust. However, when many people spend thousands to upgrade their air intakes to improve airflow, this very simple thing is a much better and cheaper first step (if your car has these charcoal filters). Their purpose is not to filter ingoing air, but they’re there for emissions purposes to prevent gases from escaping back into the atmosphere (I guess when engine is off)- at least that’s what I hear but maybe someone else with more knowledge can chime in. I’ve done this to all my BMWs that have had this filter (128i, M2 comp, and G87) and I like to say my butt dyno feels the slight difference when my engine can breathe better.
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      08-17-2023, 09:17 AM   #621
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To be honest I believe any gains from a any mods to these air intakes are minimal at best. If the DME ever needs more air it can easily adjust. However, when many people spend thousands to upgrade their air intakes to improve airflow, this very simple thing is a much better and cheaper first step (if your car has these charcoal filters). Their purpose is not to filter ingoing air, but they’re there for emissions purposes to prevent gases from escaping back into the atmosphere (I guess when engine is off)- at least that’s what I hear but maybe someone else with more knowledge can chime in. I’ve done this to all my BMWs that have had this filter (128i, M2 comp, and G87) and I like to say my butt dyno feels the slight difference when my engine can breathe better.

You actually think pulling those filters is an equal or better option to an Eventuri intake, if say, running a stage 2 tune? :

If car is bone stock, an aftermarket drop in filter is all that is needed for any "benefit" but if tuned as I described above, wrong answer.
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      08-17-2023, 09:40 AM   #622
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You actually think pulling those filters is an equal or better option to an Eventuri intake, if say, running a stage 2 tune? :

If car is bone stock, an aftermarket drop in filter is all that is needed for any "benefit" but if tuned as I described above, wrong answer.
I don’t know but I’d love to hear and learn the science. However, it’s the best airflow gain per dollar spent. And from what I remember from my other cars, not all countries have these charcoal filters….it’s a much better option than drop in filter upgrades. But if someone likes to spend thousands on Eventuri then that’s probably better.

PS: btw what’s with this offended/defensive attitude??? Why do you take it personally? If I’m wrong then you can politely and intelligently articulate a response can you not? So please drop the “you actually” and the laughing emoji unless you just don’t know any better… as you saw in my post, I was polite and humble enough to state that someone with more knowledge could chime in… let’s all be amicable here please
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      08-17-2023, 09:57 AM   #623
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I don’t know but I’d love to hear and learn the science. However, it’s the best airflow gain per dollar spent. And from what I remember from my other cars, not all countries have these charcoal filters….it’s a much better option than drop in filter upgrades. But if someone likes to spend thousands on Eventuri then that’s probably better.

PS: btw what’s with this offended/defensive attitude??? Why do you take it personally? If I’m wrong then you can politely and intelligently articulate a response can you not? So please drop the “you actually” and the laughing emoji unless you just don’t know any better… as you saw in my post, I was polite and humble enough to state that someone with more knowledge could chime in… let’s all be amicable here please

Thin skinned, are we? You made statements that just aren't true. I am sorry you didn't like the way I responded, unfortunately I cant help that. I didnt call you any names or anything like that.

I have no issues saying what you did to your car but you shouldn't have continued by making statements that its better than money spent on certain aftermarket changes (as an overall blanket statement). If I dropped a $1,500 intake on a stock motor, yes, a waste of money unless one just wants to have all the toys (it actually may possibly be a slight detriment to a stock motor). An aftermarket drop in will benefit a stock motor, although not any huge amount however the filter doesn't cost a lot. Stage 2 tune...under the hood you would need an upgraded intake, most likely aftermarket charge pipe, colder plugs (and possibly an aftermarket heat exchanger).
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Thin skinned, are we? You made statements that just aren't true. I am sorry you didn't like the way I responded, unfortunately I cant help that. I didnt call you any names or anything like that.

I have no issues saying what you did to your car but you shouldn't have continued by making statements that its better than money spent on certain aftermarket changes (as an overall blanket statement). If I dropped a $1,500 intake on a stock motor, yes, a waste of money unless one just wants to have all the toys (it actually may possibly be a slight detriment to a stock motor). An aftermarket drop in will benefit a stock motor, although not any huge amount however the filter doesn't cost a lot. Stage 2 tune...under the hood you would need an upgraded intake, most likely aftermarket charge pipe, colder plugs (and possibly an aftermarket heat exchanger).
Thank you. And I agree with all of that. I did find it curious that some countries didn’t have the charcoal filter. That’s why I thought to myself it’s such an easy thing to do that if I’m not planning on any further upgrades such as tune or expensive intakes, this should be taken out as I don’t see any benefit to having something that potentially can restrict flow (whether it does or not is another matter but psychologically I like the idea that it’s been removed). Also whether or not it actually benefits the environment having this charcoal filter is a debate I rather not get into as it might upset some Greta supporters lol.
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      08-17-2023, 06:29 PM   #625
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      08-17-2023, 07:05 PM   #626
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You actually think pulling those filters is an equal or better option to an Eventuri intake, if say, running a stage 2 tune? :

If car is bone stock, an aftermarket drop in filter is all that is needed for any "benefit" but if tuned as I described above, wrong answer.
Intakes on S55's and S58's do essentially nothing for power. Most of the 'gained' power these companies claim is total marketing BS.

It's pretty common knowledge that these intakes are purely for sound. So yes, people often spend $1500 on an Eventuri intake for literally no power gain. Stock intakes with charcoal delete are almost always the exact same performance. They just like the whoosh sound and the way it looks. Maybe if you have a crazy build... you will gain like 5hp lol. But the stock intakes are already great.
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If I dropped a $1,500 intake on a stock motor, yes, a waste of money ...(it actually may possibly be a slight detriment to a stock motor). An aftermarket drop in will benefit a stock motor, although not any huge amount ...
Ok I'm confused and interested. Does an aftermarket intake make a slight detriment to a stock motor or benefit a stock motor?

Serious question because I've always thought of an engine as being something like an air pump with as much air going in and out as possible as being a good thing so long as your fuel can keep up.

Edit: Posted before reading the post above.
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Intakes on S55's and S58's do essentially nothing for power. Most of the 'gained' power these companies claim is total marketing BS.

It's pretty common knowledge that these intakes are purely for sound. So yes, people often spend $1500 on an Eventuri intake for literally no power gain. Stock intakes with charcoal delete are almost always the exact same performance. They just like the whoosh sound and the way it looks. Maybe if you have a crazy build... you will gain like 5hp lol. But the stock intakes are already great.

For the aftermarket intakes, its not the power you are looking for, its the airflow that is needed for the tune, especially stage 2
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      08-18-2023, 10:08 AM   #629
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Ok I'm confused and interested. Does an aftermarket intake make a slight detriment to a stock motoro or benefit a stock motor?

Serious question because I've always thought of an engine as being something like an air pump with as much air going in and out as possible as being a good thing so long as your fuel can keep up.

Edit: Posted before reading the post above.
Aftermarket intakes main purpose is not for any benefited hp gain, uts for increased airflow. On the stock motor, the car is tuned to run on the stoxk intake (although as Instated, a drop in filter will be of so e benefit). Once youbstart tuning, you need to increase airflow and that is where the aftermarket intake comes in as a benefit (as well as the charge pipe). The higher stage tune, stage 2, requires added airflow (both intake and exhaust) to allow the tune to work properly. Younwill choke the engine, and burn things up, if you did a stage 2 tune with upgrading intake, downpipe, exhaust, charge pipe, etc. Just as when you get to stage 2, you need colder plugs. A tune is not just about "tuning the ecu" but the additional mods that are needed to allow the stage 2 tune to function (its really a package...no reputable tuner would dona stage 2 tune if the car was not being set up for it). The tcu should also be tuned if one goes stage 2.
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I bought black badge and cf roundels. ..yes to the pry kit. No on ceramic as I will have done when I do the car.
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