[jkap27]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

I'm not sure what that guy was expecting from a base G87 M2. If we wants something "special" for M's last ICE model I'm sure they'll deliver with the comp/cs/csl models.

I ordered an m3 so this isn’t just defending the m2 because it’s the car I want. That review from the drive was silly in my opinion. The guy complained the m2 didn’t have all unique parts and gripes about that for a whole paragraph. If he’s disappointed by a ‘shorter wheelbase m4’ he’s really gotta re evaluate his expectations.

[Game]

Originally Posted by (K)

The common theme I'm getting is that the G87 still lives in the shadow of it's M3/4 siblings. Not necessarily a bad thing, I mean that's what we were getting with the F generation cars anyway, but I had hoped the brand had enough data points to inject some more unique DNA to the G car. Seeing as how it's likely the last we'll ever see of this type of car from BMW, I figured we'd be able to go out with a little more bang.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that we're getting more of the same. Deep down, I was really hoping for a leap instead of a step

Every video I've watched has literally said the opposite.

Schmee even went as far as saying this is exactly what he wanted the M3 to be.

[JoanLluch]

Originally Posted by unfoundnemo

Hitting 265kmph with no helmets. Smart.

I suppose BMW has them sign all sorts of gag orders and liability waivers... but still.. maybe show some responsible driving?

Well, you can normally drive at that speeds among heterogeneous traffic in German autobahns and no helmet is required, so definitely doing that in a circuit is much safer no matter what

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Game

Every video I've watched has literally said the opposite.

Schmee even went as far as saying this is exactly what I wanted the M3 to be.

I honestly don't get why these reviewers are making a big deal out of the parts coming form the G80/2. Have they been living under a F'n rock for the past several years? I want to shake them and say ...

<rant>
Hello, where the F do you think the parts came from for the last F87 M2C? The entire powertrain, bracing, cooling, exhaust, suspension, etc. were all lifted from the F80/2 and used on the F87. All they did was retune them, just like they are doing with the G87. Same shit, different day.
</rant>

OK, I feel better now that I got that off my chest.

[M3EATERS]

I am sure these may not be the standard seat remembering that this is a prototype test drive/s and if they are there will be a CF seat option.

[Sedan_Clan]

The car looks good. Bring it on!

[F87EVO]

Originally Posted by cncmastr

I see what you did there. Very clever.

I guess you are talking about my avatar ?

[VIERsr]

Originally Posted by Tag

I honestly don't get why these reviewers are making a big deal out of the parts coming form the G80/2. Have they been living under a F'n rock for the past several years? I want to shake them and say ...

<rant>
Hello, where the F do you think the parts came from for the last F87 M2C? The entire powertrain, bracing, cooling, exhaust, suspension, etc. were all lifted from the F80/2 and used on the F87. All they did was retune them, just like they are doing with the G87. Same shit, different day.
</rant>

OK, I feel better now that I got that off my chest.

I wonder where these people have lived until now, maybe they have been frozen for the last 50 years.
There is one shared platform between the G2x and the G42, they are basically the same car only with a shorter wheelbase for the G42 and some minor changes, and of course these minor changes apply to the M's as well. Exactly the same as we had with E82/E92 and F8x/F87, but for some reason it seems to be a huge problem only now with Gxx cars.
But how on earth did anyone expect big changes between the M3/4 and M2, starting from the same platform? Perhaps they expected a 2-seat mid-engine with a high-speed NA engine?
Instead of being happy to still have a pure rear-wheel drive car with MT gearbox, without electrification, mild-hybrid, 4WD or other crap, they are still complaining about something that could not be possible to achieve nowadays.
They could have made a GT4RS-like car with the Bmw logo, and someone would still have complained.

[ihbase]

Originally Posted by Tag

I honestly don't get why these reviewers are making a big deal out of the parts coming form the G80/2. Have they been living under a F'n rock for the past several years? ...

I wondered the same thing. I'm guessing BMW media relations f'ed up- you know, the people who used Tesla video footage as "sneak peak" of the M2? Those guys.

My guess is that BMW thought they would impress the auto journalists by telling the assembled crowd "the new M2 has M3/M4 components" - which anyone who followed the f-gen cars already understood. But apparently it was news to journalists who, not realizing what a common platform actually means, decided that now, because the M2, M3, M4 have the same damn drivetrain- this time it is bad. Every single article leads with that point; "it has M4 parts" - which seems odd news, but here we are.

That said, no matter how good the G42 platform is, and no matter how long the M2, M3, & M4 have used a common drivetrain / suspension, I think we are all expecting the G87 to be something more unique than a short-wheelbase M4 - which is a little odd because it will obviously share the drivetrain and it clearly looks like nothing else in production ...

Perhaps the auto industry is just changing too rapidly for the media surrounding the industry to deal with it - no one is really certain what to make of anything because the old standards are crumbling / no longer relevant. I mean, I just drove an i4 that was faster than anything else I have ever driven- so should I be impressed with a slower Mwhatever? Who knows.

I'm sure that like the G42, the G87 looks better in person. Still, it needs a lower-ratio top gear - perhaps a 7 sp. manual to match the old DCT top gear ratio.

[mbanck]

The non-carbon buckets seats are in the 6MT car which appears to be an earlier prototype (it has the black/white prototype camouflage and not the flashy marketing one for the 8AT one), so it is quite plausible that its seats are non-production.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by Tag

<rant>
Hello, where the F do you think the parts came from for the last F87 M2C? The entire powertrain, bracing, cooling, exhaust, suspension, etc. were all lifted from the F80/2 and used on the F87. All they did was retune them, just like they are doing with the G87. Same shit, different day.
</rant>

Well, one could also see it another way: The power/drivetrain was developed for the CLAR cars and shared among X3M/X4M/M2/M3/M4, it's just the X3M/X4M came first, M3/M4 second and M2 last.

But that doesn't mean that the M2 "steals" the components from the bigger cars, it was developed from the beginning with the M2 in mind and that one just came out last due to the base car's life cycle.

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by Tag

A few of the reviews mention that the AT car was a Competition model. If accurate that's the first confirmation of a M2C G87.

This should not be a surprise for the M2 if we can believe BMW (you never know these days, right?), the M models now follow:

- Base
- Competition
- CSL

I don't expect them to have a CSL for every model, but where you have the choice for manual and AT I was expecting them to have a base and comp…

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by M3EATERS

I am sure these may not be the standard seat remembering that this is a prototype test drive/s and if they are there will be a CF seat option.

One of the reviewers mentioned they think that could be the "base" seat in certain countries similar to how the OG M2 had non leather manual seats outside the US. Those seats in the prototype don't look to be the exact same M sport seats in the 240. My guess is we'll see the M sports seats from the 240 as the base model in most countries.

This thing is going to start at just over $60k but after optioning all the goodies I bet you'll be closer to $75k.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by Tag

I honestly don't get why these reviewers are making a big deal out of the parts coming form the G80/2. Have they been living under a F'n rock for the past several years? I want to shake them and say ...

<rant>
Hello, where the F do you think the parts came from for the last F87 M2C? The entire powertrain, bracing, cooling, exhaust, suspension, etc. were all lifted from the F80/2 and used on the F87. All they did was retune them, just like they are doing with the G87. Same shit, different day.
</rant>

OK, I feel better now that I got that off my chest.

F87 M2C? The first 1 (2 now) Series to use M3 components was the E82 1 M.

You know why they're making a big deal out of it? It's what they've been fed at the event, hence why every article reads the same.

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by Wheelsidedown636

Welp, looks like only one summer with my G80. Already talked to my sales guy about building a G87 and putting in for the allocation. He said end of summer/early fall for orders, which was a few weeks ago now.

For anyone that hasnt sat in the carbon buckets, they DEFINITELY take some getting used to, and not comfortable for anyone on the "fluffier" side.

Took me a few weeks to get used to getting in and out of them, but now that I am, I'm definitely opting for them again in the M2.

Havent sat in a non-carbon M seat yet, but a normal 330xi seat felt so bland and boring compared to the carbon buckets.

If you're on the fence, I recommend getting them over these ugly things, if these are in fact the production spec seats.

Are you that disappointed with your G8X? Serious question….because with mine on its way (still on a boat from Germany), I still like to hear constructive criticism.

[Jason]

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[10"]

Originally Posted by stefan

You got me wondering if you have ever actually seen one in person.

Yeah—-driven many.

[Sporck]

Originally Posted by themnmd

Seats in my m340 are nicer

Absolutely...mine too

[SexyRoger]

Originally Posted by Tag

The CF seats look incredible, but getting in and out of them is a real pain in the anoose. Also don't want to sit in a La-Z-Boy.

911 buckets are defo easier to get out. The BMW buckets give you a at times an uncomfortable sack rub. lol

[phantom7835]

Originally Posted by Tag

A few of the reviews mention that the AT car was a Competition model. If accurate that's the first confirmation of a M2C G87.

More likely it's just YouTubers that don't know what they're talking about

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by themnmd

Seats in my m340 are nicer

I don't know if it's the hybrid leather/fake suede that's throwing me off (which, long term, is going to wear out like crap) or the flat seat bottoms but I tend to agree, the M340i M Sport seats do appear to look better..

And no leather seat color option is a real shame.. Red or peanut butter would of been divine.

.

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Real talk! These are unreasonable for standard M2 tier seats.. They are basically some M240i seats with some blue stitching and rat fur. I'm guessing no individual leather color choices either.. #Sad🥲

I guess it's time to budget for some nutt-hugging, carbon fiber seat add on.. 😗

Well payed BMW😉

I mean our OG M2s got the same lame sport seats that the f20s and f30s got, just a unique stitch color and a little embossed M logo.

Maybe bmw will follow suit and update them with the m3/m4 seats for the LCI refresh ala f87 competition.