[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by fzr100098

The S2000 was good

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[minn19]

Originally Posted by fzr100098

The S2000 was good

Originally Posted by two_three_two

Fact Checked by a Real American Patriot: TRUE!

Since I possibly pissed off others in another thread, I might as well keep it going. Aside from the shifter feeling and of course how light it was, I never got into the S2000 hype. I just never felt that VTEC yo like others.

I will say the ITS I test drove did feel powerful enough to be fun. If the S2000 had that power level without mods, it would’ve been a riot.

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by minn19

Since I possibly pissed off others in another thread, I might as well keep it going. Aside from the shifter feeling and of course how light it was, I never got into the S2000 hype. I just never felt that VTEC yo like others.

I will say the ITS I test drove did feel powerful enough to be fun. If the S2000 had that power level without mods, it would’ve been a riot.

to be fair, he said the S2K is "good", which is probably the least hot take of all time.

i dont really fit in them, but the shifter is the star of the show to me. in terms of on road dynamics (and fit) i prefer miatas and (most) Z cars.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by two_three_two

to be fair, he said the S2K is "good", which is probably the least hot take of all time.

i dont really fit in them, but the shifter is the star of the show to me. in terms of on road dynamics (and fit) i prefer miatas and (most) Z cars.

Funny, I was a huge 300ZX fan, unfortunately couldn’t afford the TT at the time.

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by minn19

Funny, I was a huge 300ZX fan, unfortunately couldn’t afford the TT at the time.

i've got a non turbo right now. just a joy to drive and own.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by two_three_two

to be fair, he said the S2K is "good", which is probably the least hot take of all time.

Lol, beat me to it, was gonna say exactly the same thing. I'd say it is one of the great roadsters of this century. I mean, that's a small pool of competitors, sadly, but it is what it is.

[fzr100098]

To clarify - "good" in terms of shifter feel/engagement (on topic)

[OneTwo3]

Originally Posted by Squidget

I would be EXTREMELY surprised if there's any changes to the MT during the G87 lifecycle. Wouldn't make any sense, the MT is barely worth making at all (business-wise), there's no way they are investing R&D into it. Very IMO of course.

So until I hear otherwise, I'm assuming that it's the same and always will be until it's gone for good.

Edit: FWIW, If I had to reach, I guess it is plausible that the changes for the Supra/Z4 gets backported into the G87, I guess? Still seems unlikely, but possible?

What about the improved manual they put in the 2025 Z4? Sounds like they made improvements to that

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by OneTwo3

What about the improved manual they put in the 2025 Z4? Sounds like they made improvements to that

I noted that possibility, yes. But the only honest answer is that no one knows BMW's plans.

[chris719]

I have not driven G87 manual yet, but I just bought a used 2006 Z4M. After changing the fluid, which was horrible looking and smelling (17 years unchanged?), it shifts great. It's way better than my F87 competition; you can actually shift it fast and it's already less rubbery without aftermarket SSK.