[vampire81]

could the instrument cluster pic be hiding some info, like:
clock=world premiere date 24 October
odometer=price $69,670

[Vojta89]

Originally Posted by vampire81

could the instrument cluster pic be hiding some info, like:
clock=world premiere date 24 October
odometer=price $69,670

And 343 kW power because 343 km on full tank sounds sooo bad, unless it's in track pace

[vampire81]

Originally Posted by Vojta89

And 343 kW power because 343 km on full tank sounds sooo bad, unless it's in track pace

460 HP sounds plausible

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by Tag

This is total speculation, but it seems like they had a Comp model during the test drives. Anyone notice the MT car had the 50th anniversary M wrap while the other car which was AT didn't and was still in camo; why? Maybe it was the Comp model as Shmee said it was. It makes sense for the Comp to be the AT car just like the M3/4 Comps are only AT. Comp models usually come out later after the base model is released which would make sense why the car was still in camo.

Can't say for sure, but seems to me there are too many clues and hints to ignore.

I only watched the Autobild video so far and in that one it seems to be pretty clear that the 50th anniversary wrap (with the bucket seats and the M seatbelts) is for the AT model, while the traditional wrap with the standard seats and the standard seatbelts is for the MT model.

And the latter looks like an earlier prototype, which is why it doesn't have the production seats.

In any case, M seatbelts on Competition models is a US-specific thing and this was a worldwide press event so I wouldn't read too much into it.

Further, the Autobuild guy also said both MT and AT had the same power output, I think he said 450 PS.

Finally, our resident source does not have a SOP for the competition model which usually means it is more than one year away, so while a competition model seems (internally) confirmed, I don't think the journalists sat in one.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by mbanck

I only watched the Autobild video so far and in that one it seems to be pretty clear that the 50th anniversary wrap (with the bucket seats and the M seatbelts) is for the AT model, while the traditional wrap with the standard seats and the standard seatbelts is for the MT model.

After zapping through the Joe Achilles one I have to retract it - clearly the MT one he drives is the flashy one on the outside.

So either Autobild or (all?) the others messed up the exterior shots with the interior (my bet is on Autobild then), or (rather unlikely, as the number plates match up) there were 4 cars.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by mbanck

I only watched the Autobild video so far and in that one it seems to be pretty clear that the 50th anniversary wrap (with the bucket seats and the M seatbelts) is for the AT model, while the traditional wrap with the standard seats and the standard seatbelts is for the MT model.

And the latter looks like an earlier prototype, which is why it doesn't have the production seats.

In any case, M seatbelts on Competition models is a US-specific thing and this was a worldwide press event so I wouldn't read too much into it.

Further, the Autobuild guy also said both MT and AT had the same power output, I think he said 450 PS.

Finally, our resident source does not have a SOP for the competition model which usually means it is more than one year away, so while a competition model seems (internally) confirmed, I don't think the journalists sat in one.

I don't see why BMW would steer away from their current base/comp strategy, with the comp model being auto-only and more powerful.

BMW people at the event told them the M2 is going to have F87 CS-level of power output, which is what they've all paraphrased but doesn't necessarily mean same output for the base and comp, or that the output is exactly like the F87's.

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by Turkish Pickle

Holy shit im excited!

Last full ICE M car, last one with a manual (most likely), this one will be a hot seller.

Especially if it comes around $60-65k I know what my next car is already

I'd plan on it being a solid $10k more.

[anitasanger]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

I'd plan on it being a solid $10k more.

A base m2 being more expensive than a base m4? No way. It'll be a standard $4-5k inflation markup over last year, just like the m3 and the m4, which have already had their 2023 prices established.

Car and Driver said to expect "just north of 60k."

[Sporck]

Oh yes...M2 here I come. The last manual gearbox...

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

Idk. I'm thinking this gen looks better. Hopefully I'm wrong.

You're not.

[Tallest]

That front pic is interesting.
Very boxy looking front, sort of makes me think of E30.
But then I see the sides - and they are anything but boxy. Very 00s BMW. I dunno, I feel like designers didnt push too hard to make this a boxy car, I guess they dont have the OK from the top yet.

I want a return to boxy shapes done in modern way and done well (aka Ioniq 5).

Originally Posted by advantage20

It is possible that the M2 is already anticipating squarer, simpler shape headlights for the entire LCI 2er Coupé range, without yet receiving them itself as the LCI is still too far out.

Good post, dude! Fully agree on your observations and comes to the point I wrote above that it seems current car shape is disjointed from front which has to be returning back to boxiness.

Come to think of it, the IX (not the prettiest car) still works better than most BMWs today because they at least try to introduce new language as a whole. The IX grown on me, even though it still looks like a tardigrade from the front.

I really wish BMW was bolder and went to some cool shape and embrace with EV cars a different architecture. As for ICE cars - gotta maximise the looks, make them pretty or nice, without vulgarity that dominates. Otherwise they will just lose out.

[TheJerseyDon]

no x-drive.. maybe a later date? Or do they not want to step on the M3 & M4 toes too much?

[AndyinHou]

Originally Posted by TheJerseyDon

no x-drive.. maybe a later date? Or do they not want to step on the M3 & M4 toes too much?

Pretty sure Artemis has said no xDrive in the M2 - and as you say, that'd really start taking sales away from the M3/4!

[AndyinHou]

Is the anniversary wrap pictured going to be an option? Because if so they can just take my money!

[TheJerseyDon]

Originally Posted by AndyinHou

Pretty sure Artemis has said no xDrive in the M2 - and as you say, that'd really start taking sales away from the M3/4!

Too bad I really wanted x-drive M pocket rocket.

[R N M]

The ipad screen is such a turn off especially for what is supposed to be the last hurrah for ICE M car.

Hoping the styling will be great as i would love to pick one up but will be happy with my F80 as well.

[rwemersonrw]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

You're not.

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by ASAP

Launch april 23 lol... so no one is getting a car here until summer 23 at absolute earliest.

That's an absurdly long lead time. Near as makes no difference 2 years from F87 EOP.

[themk]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

I'd plan on it being a solid $10k more.

I think since they have moved it to mexico I would expect paying about 5k more then the F87. It should be somewhere between 10-20k less then M3.

[themk]

I am hoppying they do a special for the first 1500 sold to wrap up the 50th anversery as the m2 is the closet thing to a Pure M car.

[Gdiddy23]

This has got me excited again after everyone was freaking out regarding that leaked rear end photo we saw last week.

Gimme a carbon roof and carbon seats w a 6 speed and I'm good

[Tag]

Originally Posted by mbanck

I only watched the Autobild video so far and in that one it seems to be pretty clear that the 50th anniversary wrap (with the bucket seats and the M seatbelts) is for the AT model, while the traditional wrap with the standard seats and the standard seatbelts is for the MT model.

And the latter looks like an earlier prototype, which is why it doesn't have the production seats.

In any case, M seatbelts on Competition models is a US-specific thing and this was a worldwide press event so I wouldn't read too much into it.

Further, the Autobuild guy also said both MT and AT had the same power output, I think he said 450 PS.

Finally, our resident source does not have a SOP for the competition model which usually means it is more than one year away, so while a competition model seems (internally) confirmed, I don't think the journalists sat in one.

It's actually the exact opposite, the car with the 50th anniversary wrap was the MT with the cheap seats while the zebra camo wrapped one was the AT with CF seats and M seat belts.