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      09-23-2024, 09:08 AM   #45
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You are missing the big picture. It doesn’t appear that they are trying to sell this as a $25,000+++ refit to existing M2s. They are showing that they are a legit shop that can do what few others have the knowledge and resources to do which should help with publicity and future business.

Or maybe just maybe they enjoy the challenge and would rather pursue their passion instead of binging Netflix all day.

Count me as impressed. I’m lucky I can put air in my tires without messing something up.

Either way, you do you. I’m a glass half full person.
Count me equallly impressed. This is pure engineering at its best.
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      09-23-2024, 10:35 AM   #46
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GTP motorsports still did it first, and have the fastest…
Hey man, thanks for your comment.

I'm not sure exactly when GTP Motorsports completed their swap, but it's worth mentioning that our conversion was completed quite a while ago now. Content schedules, working with sponsors etc. mean that there is sometimes quite a large gap between when the work is carried out and when the content is released.

That being said, regardless of who got there first we just wanted to highlight this section of our G87 project as no one else had documented the whole process in detail or done a back-to-back comparison.

We absolutely do not want to undermine the achievement of GTP Motorsports - we came across a number of challenges changing over to xDrive and know first-hand how much it takes to pull this off. Especially without a blueprint from others who've done it before. Hats off to them!
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      09-23-2024, 02:34 PM   #47
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325, 328,335,340,435, 528, 535 all had XDrive Manual option. Has been done. Can be done but agreed that there just aren’t enough takers even for manuals these days. It’s sad really. Another reason why I haven’t sold my STi yet and probably won’t.
None of those were rated for 500 ft lbs. That is why it wasn't done. Rwd is already roasting clutches stock so they didn't want to engineer a new one for awd as it would be harder on the clutch. Cost to profit didn't make sense.
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I probably missed it, does it add ~150-200#?

Not convinced it would be faster (or more fun) on a mountain road but will keep an open mind. I typically keep a car 2-3 years so getting this in 2027 or 28 would be ok
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I probably missed it, does it add ~150-200#?

Not convinced it would be faster (or more fun) on a mountain road but will keep an open mind. I typically keep a car 2-3 years so getting this in 2027 or 28 would be ok
Of course it’s going to be faster.

You can get the power down much quicker.
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It adds 99lbs. That’s it. AWD is faster, handles better and inspires massive driver confidence.
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      09-24-2024, 02:41 AM   #51
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It adds 99lbs. That’s it. AWD is faster, handles better and inspires massive driver confidence.
Fully agreed & it can be toggled back to simply RWD at any time by pushing a button.
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      09-24-2024, 07:05 AM   #52
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Nice project and a real build unlike people calling their basic order a build. Respect and congrats.
Means a lot! Appreciate the comment.
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      09-24-2024, 07:06 AM   #53
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Well said !
I have no idea how much time/money/effort R44/TWP put in to pull this off (even after watching the videos)
You then have someone jump straight on the thread and talk it down.
Great job guys, maybe M also followed the build 😉
Really appreciate the comment man!
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Lol 2026 M2 is coming as a xdrive. This like $59K build.. cool.
It may do! But we haven't got time to waste
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Pretty sure it’s going to be a MY27 car. CS will be MY26.
Keen to see what BMW do! So far it is all rumors but would be cool to see something new from BMW.
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It is oktoberfest....
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      09-24-2024, 07:10 AM   #57
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      09-24-2024, 07:11 AM   #58
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Crazy how xdrive is over a full second faster
Yes and that is on an unprepped track with not the best tyres, excited to see the potential!
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“…But we haven't got time to waste”
I agree with that… 💯

Time is now, time is money
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Keen to see what BMW do! So far it is all rumors but would be cool to see something new from BMW.
It’s actually confirmed by our resident product expert, including the timeline itself
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Nobody is taking anything away from r44…
Its like when Visconti posted there time way way back claiming “fastest stock motor”,
But it wasn’t . Gtp did this before r44 did.
It’s just facts. No they did not post it and showed step by step videos for sure…
They simply converted into an xdrive,
Built the motor, added a single turbo all in one go. Then drove it cross country from CA to PA, then PA to FL In two different events. (1/4, and 1/2 mile racing). Oh yea and then drove it back to California …
R44 is a big name , they make great products and are really awesome guys.
We’re all entitled to our opinion here and thank god free speech isn’t taken away on this platform. Job well done for r44 to make it available for the world to see!
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Please someone do Xdrive swap 6MT! That’s the ultimate driving machine.
How much will this cost me?
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The moment they release XDrive M2, I am trading my M3 in.
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Of course it’s going to be faster.

You can get the power down much quicker.
It's not that simple, this isn't a fast and the furious stoplight race, I'm talking about on a roadcourse (which you likely have zero experience with)

There are still extremely fast rwd cars putting down great times. AWD cars can understeer more

Older thread but some differing opinions
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...ispreloading=1

M3 xDrive at Lightning Lap
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...lightning-lap/

Camaro ZLE still beats it easily
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It's not that simple, this isn't a fast and the furious stoplight race, I'm talking about on a roadcourse (which you likely have zero experience with)

There are still extremely fast rwd cars putting down great times. AWD cars can understeer more

Older thread but some differing opinions
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/184675-rwd-vs-awd-on-the-track.html?ispreloading=1
You don’t know anything about me so quit speaking out of your ass. It obviously has a lot to do with what kind of car it is.

I do have a lot of experience at driving cars. I drive them every day professionally, and I have track experience as well.

All wheel drive makes all the difference in the world. Maybe you should take a bit of time and educate yourself❕
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Maybe you need to educate yourself - professional what? uber driver?

What I posted stands, stop crying
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