View Poll Results: What oil cooler protection did you go with? | |||
Mishimoto Skid Plate | 51 | 23.83% | |
Turner Motorsport Skid Plate | 6 | 2.80% | |
ZunSport Oil Cooler Grille | 65 | 30.37% | |
Unlisted Brand | 14 | 6.54% | |
DIY Protection | 13 | 6.07% | |
Can't feel anything with protection, I'm raw doggin' it! | 65 | 30.37% | |
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01-24-2024, 06:02 PM | #46 | |
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01-24-2024, 10:43 PM | #48 |
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F87s are vulnerable too right? I’m suddenly somewhat spooked. Maybe I should get one of these options before a planned road trip across the US…!
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01-25-2024, 12:06 AM | #49 |
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I just installed the Zunsport oil-cooler grill this past weekend, so it is fresh in my mind. If a service required removing the plastic under panel, it should be possible without undoing the self-tapping screws at the rear of the grill. But yes I agree that is a weak point in the design. To be honest, a more robust solution would be to attach the grill to the plastic cover using pre-drilled holes and a lock-nut fastener (would need to remove the panel).
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01-25-2024, 08:07 AM | #50 |
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Thanks to all of you for your answers!
The last explanation I can give to my questions is that I will receive my car in 2 months, and I asked my contact at sales département to investigate if the workshop could install this grill before delivery. He says : normally yes, but they have to have a look at the car before doing it, and he also said “my pessimistic side will tell you that I don’t know if they will or not add a note to the history of the car”. So I plan to install it by my self, but was wondering at the above, because they will see the cover during break in service. I think I will take my chance and let the grill during the service, cause I don’t want to wait 2000km to have the grill installed. |
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01-25-2024, 08:33 AM | #51 | |
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(In one pic I saw the damage looked more like someone drove over a parking space curb and caught the oil cooler on a metal rod that often is sticking up through holes in the curb. The rods are used to hold the stone in place.) |
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We're already into the 2nd year of the G87. If this was a statistically significant problem, the 2024 would have come with a shield. When I look at the undercarriage of the car it doesn't strike me as a place they're taking risks to cut costs. Also, why are more people rushing to install a grill under the car than to protect the one on the face of the car? I get the concern, and it's a low investment and labor install, so don't think I'm judging anyone who installs this. I seriously considered it myself. I'm just trying to be rational about it. (famous last words) |
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01-26-2024, 01:26 AM | #56 | |
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We have nice roads to drive here in Germany overall. My dealer has more than a few cars each year that suffer this. He agree's fully with a 'rational' protection plan. |
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01-26-2024, 05:21 AM | #57 | |
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I have an M240i with the ZTK package which has the oil cooler in the same spot. I made a protector that was much less expensive than commercial protectors.
I was not worried about curbs so much as I was with the random rock, pebble, roadkill or whatever. I bought a piece of black abs plastic from Amazon, drilled a lot of holes in it and zip tied and screwed it in place without disturbing any factory bits. If I ever track the car, I can easily remove it. Temps have never exceeded 229 degrees so far but I haven't really driven it on a hot summer day yet (only 1400 miles on the car). Not sure about the M2 but for normal street use the cooler is probably not necessary so adding some type of protector that blocks heat transfer may not be an issue. I have maybe $50 in it total. Just some added peace of mind not having the think about that cooler getting damaged .......... |
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Was not including protective screens a cost-cutting measure, most likely. I'm sure BMW looked at any previous similar incident that was reported to a dealership and ran the probability of that occurrence against the cost to equip every vehicle with screens. Or they simply said an incident will be deemed road hazard & not covered under warranty so F-it. A good example of a similar issue is the new C8 Corvette. Huge radiators up front and right away owners started seeing damage from road debris. Aftermarket companies came out with protective screens & immediately both the head of Corvette and the lead engineer said those screens would reduce airflow to the radiators and potentially void the vehicle warranty. Fast forward a year or so and GM licensed the screens from the aftermarket company, lists them as an available dealer-installed option (at a price hike of course), and miraculously they no longer restrict airflow or potentially void the warranty because GM is making money from their sale. At the end of the day, it's a couple hundred bucks for added protection. We all spend that amount, and much more, on other "unnecessary" accessories/modifications (i.e., window tint, rear spoilers, front splitters, wheel spacers, etc.) and those individuals don't get blasted for doing so. |
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Fresh install last night, peace of mind restored.
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Probably was said already but it depends also where you live, being in MI with the roads out here during winter and spring, there are just rocks everywhere. But if I lived in so cal, no need at all.
The shit I have seen on these MI roads would turn your shit white… |
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01-26-2024, 11:28 AM | #65 |
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I made some post on this thread before and I just have another scenario that I didn't think of before.
To recap, I didn't think it was mathematically or physically possible for the car to go fast enough and the vacuum effect to hit the bottom. I confirmed that with several Physics phDs from MIT on that. (I worked with a lot of them). Bouncing rock from car in front, I have a hard time believing that would happen until I figured out a scenario that is possible this past week. A rock that kick up high from the car in front has less chance to get under the car but I realized this week the real likely scenario is more of a rock that got shot out almost horizontally while carrying high velocity but rolling on the road. Since no rock is an actual ball shape, when the rolling rock hit a certain edge and convert the kinetic energy upward, that I think would have the potential force to hit the cooler with enough force to puncture. How likely is that? I have absolutely no idea but I think that is possible. I think that is why this kind of incident is coverage by car insurance make sense. With so many people driving while looking at their phones, I believe it is more likely to get rear ended than that scenario. So both are insurance claim so personally I am not going to worry about that scenario. I do think curb the car to damage that is most common case. And that certainly has to do with ride height. So the next statistic would be interesting is how many lowered cars have this problem as compare to stock? |
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