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      09-02-2024, 11:03 AM   #45
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No, a good portion of people see cars as a numbers game. The higher the number the better. And will chase that instead of the driving experience. So an M4 is better than an M2, a M5 is better than the M4, the M8 is the best. The higher the horsepower the better and with X Drive, you're able to put down crazy acceleration numbers from standstill, so there's more to brag about.
Of course when a new model comes out, they will buy that as well but if it doesn't have the numbers, it's traded in for another model that does, quickly. Even if it's a better driving experience because that's hard to brag about.
100% agree. For example how fast would you buy a C8 junior with an I4T or V6, a foot shorter and 500 lbs lighter, say 350hp at $65k. I sure would.
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      09-02-2024, 12:02 PM   #46
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Is it me or are the headlights different. I see a top LED DRL strip.
Which pic are you referring to?The headlights look exactly the same IMO except it appears that one of the test mules has camo over sections of the headlights.In another thread an insider mentioned that the headlights and taillights will never be changed for the G87.
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I hope that front bumper bolts on directly to a standard G87 :-)
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Isn't it the same bumper but with a lip? I honestly can't tell.
100% the same front bumper.
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I believe only black interiors were available. Although the seats had white inserts.
Your car has something that none of today’s BMW line has and that’s amazing 7 speed MDCT.
Its one of the best automatic gearboxes out there. Fast and fun to use specially in S3 mode.
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I think the the G series cars were designed from the start with that added aero in mind. Looks the business. Looks undersprung in the video.
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Which pic are you referring to?The headlights look exactly the same IMO except it appears that one of the test mules has camo over sections of the headlights.In another thread an insider mentioned that the headlights and taillights will never be changed for the G87.
Agreed. The test car appear to be fitted with the standard headlights without any shadowline option. Hence the silver brow which appears to be reflecting light
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Just goes to show how effective the swirly camo is.
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M2 is a great car on the track, the M3 seems to be more settled & not as twitchy, that's what the longer wheelbase will do. My opinion only. If I could I would have both
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I have said this from when it was first spied- almost 2 years ago.
It’s an M2 CSL!!
Awesome!!!!!!
I hope it at least comes properly lowered with factory coils

And isn’t all jacked up like standard issue G87’s that sit as if they’ve got xDrive or shipping block still in place
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Looks undersprung in the video.
I agree, first thing i noticed was how softly sprung it looks, understeering quite a bit also.
Guessing they are possibly testing drive modes & still tuning the handling as it doesn’t look very planted.

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I agree, first thing i noticed was how softly sprung it looks, understeering quite a bit also.
Guessing they are possibly just testing different drive modes behaviour.
The first thing i noticed was that it was a car with four wheels. Maybe my bar is a bit low…
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No, a good portion of people see cars as a numbers game. The higher the number the better. And will chase that instead of the driving experience. So an M4 is better than an M2, a M5 is better than the M4, the M8 is the best. The higher the horsepower the better and with X Drive, you're able to put down crazy acceleration numbers from standstill, so there's more to brag about.
Of course when a new model comes out, they will buy that as well but if it doesn't have the numbers, it's traded in for another model that does, quickly. Even if it's a better driving experience because that's hard to brag about.
Such a throwaway society

Man this thing moves out… 💨
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Are they planning to bring out a new version for each car every year to exploit FOMO?
Just look what they did with the OG M2 lifecycle. They learned. It’s irritating. They’re inadvertently training people that you want to buy the last-introduced iteration of a model not the first.
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Personal preference: If they’re going to make this auto only and possibly AWD I think I’ll just get an M3C xDrive next but keep the manual M2 as well.

At least that will have a usable backseat (and is much heavier obviously haha)
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100% agree. For example how fast would you buy a C8 junior with an I4T or V6, a foot shorter and 500 lbs lighter, say 350hp at $65k. I sure would.
With a MT?! Absolutely!
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No, a good portion of people see cars as a numbers game. The higher the number the better. And will chase that instead of the driving experience. So an M4 is better than an M2, a M5 is better than the M4, the M8 is the best. The higher the horsepower the better and with X Drive, you're able to put down crazy acceleration numbers from standstill, so there's more to brag about.
Of course when a new model comes out, they will buy that as well but if it doesn't have the numbers, it's traded in for another model that does, quickly. Even if it's a better driving experience because that's hard to brag about.
💯 % great way to sum it up. That’s why we smile so much when we drive our cars. If ya know, ya know.
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What a waste of space. I think money better spent on an M4 Xdrive or M3/4 CS.
Wut? Are you on the right forum ser?
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100% agree. For example how fast would you buy a C8 junior with an I4T or V6, a foot shorter and 500 lbs lighter, say 350hp at $65k. I sure would.
Considering a C8 Stingray with a 500 hp V8 is $65k, what you describe above should be about $35k max. And at that price just by a C6 or C5 Z06 if you want a driver's sports car. But why would you buy a 4 or 6 cylinder Corvette? A Corvette is what it is, just like the M2 is what it is. Buy something else that fits the criteria you want instead of bastardizing current performance vehicles.
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Is the decision not to make the CS available as a manual mainly a financial one in that the cost of production would outweigh the take rate? Or is there some other reason?
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Is the decision not to make the CS available as a manual mainly a financial one in that the cost of production would outweigh the take rate? Or is there some other reason?
Probably because of torque limitations on the manual.
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