Thank You Ford!!!

New2Roundel · 06-27-2015, 07:51 PM

I like the car and love the sound. And as awesome as the performance is, I just don't like the looks of the current car. I couldn't spend $60k+ on a car that I wasn't completely nuts for. For anything new that's anywhere near or above $100k, I'd be in a Viper without considering any other American car. That goes for the GT as well---love the lines and am intrigued by the 6-cyl TT they are using, but the estimated ~$400k is nuts, IMO. And as silly as it sounds, I'm a manual transmission guy and the new GT won't be offering one of those.

Ford has some great cars if you put aside a few critical (well, to me anyway) elements. I just came from a '12 mustang that was a great car overall, but it was the critical details that got me into my current e92. No matter how blisteringly fast any of the modern mustangs are, they will always drive like they weigh more than they do, have a seat position that is way down in the car with a high cowl and a really long hood. If I grew up in cars like that I probably wouldn't care. Getting into the e92 though, everything just feels right. And since I'm not racing for pinks or cash, I'd rather go with the car that ultimately feels better than pulls better numbers--given that I have to make such a distinction.

Labeef · 06-27-2015, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackhawks

If you had $144,000 in your budget for a car... I assume a Ford wouldn't even cross your mind.

Because you wouldn't have to spend that much on it. Who pays mark up on M3's & M4's?? No one.

RM7 · 06-27-2015, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by New2Roundel

I just came from a '12 mustang that was a great car overall, but it was the critical details that got me into my current e92. No matter how blisteringly fast any of the modern mustangs are, they will always drive like they weigh more than they do, have a seat position that is way down in the car with a high cowl and a really long hood. If I grew up in cars like that I probably wouldn't care. Getting into the e92 though, everything just feels right. And since I'm not racing for pinks or cash, I'd rather go with the car that ultimately feels better than pulls better numbers--given that I have to make such a distinction.

Your 12 mustang is nothing like the new independent suspension mustang, especially in how it drives. The 4 coupe/GC also has a pretty high hood.

wisesoul · 06-28-2015, 12:07 AM

Nice sound. But boy does it look unstable. Body control seems to be lacking

Ali Shiralian · 06-28-2015, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wisesoul

Nice sound. But boy does it look unstable. Body control seems to be lacking

Stability is not Mustang's strong suit, it's a Ford.

The Automotive Enthusiast · 06-28-2015, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NickyC

I'm not sure if that's what he meant. I like that GT350R sure, but there's just so many of the near identical looking cars on the road. They're a dime a dozen, there's just no individuality at all to them. I'd never own one just for that reason, but it's still an amazing car performance wise.

The M4 is a dime a dozen where I live. Everyone and their mother has one. I have an order in for a 2016 GT350 at MSRP.

5.2L naturally aspirated Flat-Plane V8 revving to 8,400 RPM? Yes. please. It's the closet thing to my '13 M3.

The Automotive Enthusiast · 06-28-2015, 12:16 AM

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The Automotive Enthusiast · 06-28-2015, 12:21 AM

For the people whining and complaining about ADM, depending on what part of the country you're on the i8 has anywhere from a $40,000 ADM to $100,000 ADM. Just sayin'.

CirrusSR22 · 06-28-2015, 12:33 AM

Here's what that driver had to say about it. Ben Collins, a former "Stig" from Top Gear. The first independent mini-review I've seen.

"It is an amazing vehicle, it’s got a fantastic grip, it’s super lightweight, 525 horsepower, but I really didn’t expect what I got. The amount of power surge you get is incredible so I had a lot of fun, had a big grin."

"this is another grade up, it’s weapons grade superpower."

"It’s got 525 horsepower, it’s as light as a squirrel. I don’t know what the weight is but it’s tiny. It’s got big wide tires on it. It’s the Michelin Pilot Cup Sports that are providing a lot of grip. It makes a fantastic sound and you can do all kinds of extreme things with it, you can turn the traction control completely off which is what I did and just have loads of fun."

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25517

This thing makes the M4 look like an absolute bore.

The Automotive Enthusiast · 06-28-2015, 01:30 AM

I don't think your really need an exhaust on it at all.

FogCityM3 · 06-28-2015, 01:43 AM

It's the Goodwood festival..they're supposed to be hot-dogging it. Look at Tiff Nedell's footage of the M4, same thing.

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Originally Posted by wisesoul

Nice sound. But boy does it look unstable. Body control seems to be lacking

Efthreeoh · 06-28-2015, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackhawks

I didn't say anything about the owners. There's a reason why Detroit is a ghost town.

Yeah, labor unions and a Federal Government that hates activity that produces black smoke...

IEDEI · 06-28-2015, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NickyC

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Originally Posted by Blipit_

Sure if you are an insecure b*tch that care what others think of you.

Head to Cars and Coffee, enthusiasts will drool over a GT350R. The engine is more European than the Europeans.

I'm not sure if that's what he meant. I like that GT350R sure, but there's just so many of the near identical looking cars on the road. They're a dime a dozen, there's just no individuality at all to them. I'd never own one just for that reason, but it's still an amazing car performance wise.

sure....but the M4 isn't that unique.....I can barely tell the difference between an M4 and a 428 M sport until they get close. BMWs are a dime a dozen here in NYC.....I particular the 3er and 4ers.

nicksm3 · 06-28-2015, 09:39 AM

Finally Ford did it right, the looks, performance, handling, braking....I have gone to 2 dealerships to put a deposit on it...virtually impossible to get the R but possible to get hands on the base 350. I love my E92 but this thing is just bad ass..can't deny it.

Blksnowflake · 06-28-2015, 09:59 AM

I'd choose this over an M4, easily, everyday and twice on Sunday. But I'd wait for msrp or below.

Jamesons Viggen · 06-28-2015, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackhawks

I didn't say anything about the owners. There's a reason why Detroit is a ghost town.

Durp

wisesoul · 06-28-2015, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ali Shiralian

Stability is not Mustang's strong suit, it's a Ford.

Damn, that's cold lol

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Originally Posted by FogCityM3

It's the Goodwood festival..they're supposed to be hot-dogging it. Look at Tiff Nedell's footage of the M4, same thing.

While I agree, Tiff looked to be deliberately inducing oversteer. Shelby guy looked like he was busy managing the beast

NickyC · 06-28-2015, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IEDEI

sure....but the M4 isn't that unique.....I can barely tell the difference between an M4 and a 428 M sport until they get close. BMWs are a dime a dozen here in NYC.....I particular the 3er and 4ers.

I never said the M4 was unique, I wouldn't want one of those either (or any new bloated BMW).

vsix · 06-28-2015, 11:51 AM

Don't need a manufacturer's car, that is claiming on every new model intro how great it is and how it can destroy the ///M3! There was a time I ran out and bought one brand new, everytime the new Mustang model came out just because I've trusted their claim's. As soon I bought it I found out what a pile of shit it actually was. Now that I burned alot of money on car's only to get dissapointed Iam happy and glad I found my exit- car, that brakes well, corner's well, engine amd transmission is like a master piece composed by Tschaikowski itself...oh and it has a very nice radio sound!
Today I compared mine again next to an GT....Meeeeeeeeeh....
I know you guy's talk about the GT 350....body lines are the same....

FogCityM3 · 06-28-2015, 01:55 PM

Hmmm...maybe. I also know there is quite a bit of Nurburgring footage on the GT350 and the car looks extremely planted and fast! Rumor has it per one of the auto rags, laps in 7:30s.

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Originally Posted by wisesoul

While I agree, Tiff looked to be deliberately inducing oversteer. Shelby guy looked like he was busy managing the beast

fcman · 06-28-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pikkagtr

Yah but then you just look like you left Hertz rental along with all the red mustang coupes on the road

You realize you drive a 3-series BMW right? See far more of those on the road than Mustangs...

Ali Shiralian · 06-28-2015, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fcman

You realize you drive a 3-series BMW right? See far more of those on the road than Mustangs...

Yeah but not too many BMWs at Hertz

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CirrusSR22 Major 347 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota iTrader: (0)	Here's what that driver had to say about it. Ben Collins, a former "Stig" from Top Gear. The first independent mini-review I've seen. "It is an amazing vehicle, it’s got a fantastic grip, it’s super lightweight, 525 horsepower, but I really didn’t expect what I got. The amount of power surge you get is incredible so I had a lot of fun, had a big grin." "this is another grade up, it’s weapons grade superpower." "It’s got 525 horsepower, it’s as light as a squirrel. I don’t know what the weight is but it’s tiny. It’s got big wide tires on it. It’s the Michelin Pilot Cup Sports that are providing a lot of grip. It makes a fantastic sound and you can do all kinds of extreme things with it, you can turn the traction control completely off which is what I did and just have loads of fun." http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25517 This thing makes the M4 look like an absolute bore. Last edited by CirrusSR22; 06-28-2015 at 01:12 AM..
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nicksm3 Colonel 1031 Rep 2,515 Posts Drives: e92 m3 Competition Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Westchester NY iTrader: (6)	Finally Ford did it right, the looks, performance, handling, braking....I have gone to 2 dealerships to put a deposit on it...virtually impossible to get the R but possible to get hands on the base 350. I love my E92 but this thing is just bad ass..can't deny it.
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Blksnowflake Mlightened 1851 Rep 2,242 Posts Drives: Yaz M3 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: TX iTrader: (1)	I'd choose this over an M4, easily, everyday and twice on Sunday. But I'd wait for msrp or below.
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vsix Lieutenant Colonel 603 Rep 1,598 Posts Drives: M3 E92 sold, M4 F82 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: ATL iTrader: (0)	Don't need a manufacturer's car, that is claiming on every new model intro how great it is and how it can destroy the ///M3! There was a time I ran out and bought one brand new, everytime the new Mustang model came out just because I've trusted their claim's. As soon I bought it I found out what a pile of shit it actually was. Now that I burned alot of money on car's only to get dissapointed Iam happy and glad I found my exit- car, that brakes well, corner's well, engine amd transmission is like a master piece composed by Tschaikowski itself...oh and it has a very nice radio sound! Today I compared mine again next to an GT....Meeeeeeeeeh.... I know you guy's talk about the GT 350....body lines are the same.... Attached Images Last edited by vsix; 06-28-2015 at 12:01 PM..
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