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View Poll Results: Vote best stock ~$60K option for alternative to continued mods to FBO M235i
997 Porsche 911 Turbo 75 38.46%
Nissan GTR 42 21.54%
F10 BMW M5 20 10.26%
C7 Corvette Stingray Z51 31 15.90%
Audi S6 4 2.05%
Other (fill in the blank and why): runner-ups include C6 Vette, GT350, Camaro ZL1/Z28, Hellcat 23 11.79%
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      02-14-2016, 12:18 PM   #45
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To the OP, why don't you edit your thread and and an actual Poll that people can vote in......

And if your just looking for pure Power, add the 707 HP Hellcat to the choices while your editing.

Just my 2 cents
Done and Done. Although, has anyone driven the Hellcat? I went to 2 dealers and they said they don't allow for test drives!
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Yes. My low-option M3 was $60k brand new (after discounts).
Dude! How did you get that deal?
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Modified C6Z or C6 ZR1. You'll shit your pants with excitement.
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How about a base F-Type? It starts a bit above $60K, but I hear that dealer incentives are pretty good at the moment.
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How about a base F-Type? It starts a bit above $60K, but I hear that dealer incentives are pretty good at the moment.
Gorgeous car and great exhaust but doesn't have the brutal acceleration of its R type big brother.

I'm a little surprised not many folks think keeping the FBO M235 and continuing to mod it is an option. For instance, put on a VTT, Pure or RB (if available) Stage 2 turbo, etc, etc. Kinda waiting for someone to talk me off the ledge hahaha.

To reiterate, I'm getting frustrated that the FBO M235i didn't turn out as quick as I hoped. Now making the choice to either go full out or cash in the chips for options 1-6.

Thanks guys! Your input is all read, considered, and valuable! For instance, starting to research the last gen Viper and C6 Z06 more.

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Gorgeous car and great exhaust but doesn't have the brutal acceleration of its R type big brother.

I'm a little surprised not many folks think keeping the FBO M235 and continuing to mod it is an option. For instance, put on a VTT, Pure or RB (if available) Stage 2 turbo, etc, etc. Kinda waiting for someone to talk me off the ledge hahaha.

To reiterate, I'm getting frustrated that the FBO M235i didn't turn out as quick as I hoped. Now making the choice to either go full out or cash in the chips for options 1-6.

Thanks guys! Your input is all read, considered, and valuable! For instance, starting to research the last gen Viper and C6 Z06 more.

Because we know that no matter the mods, the 235 won't make you happy? You sound like me. Do all this crap to countless cars only to get bored & waste $ on the next one to do it 50 more times.

Go drive a modified Viper & C6Z & ZR1. I don't mean a bolt-on car either. While fast, won't make you nearly as happy as one with a cam and/or head work. Gen 5 Viper or none as well. The C6Z is faster than the Viper FYI. (Stock vs stock)
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Dude! How did you get that deal?
Not unbelievable at all. A stripper M3 invoice is less than $60k. My buddy just paid under invoice for his M4. So a $60k M3 isn't out of the question.

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GT350. Although you may have to wait a bit for all the hype to die down and they are easier to get your hands on.
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Because we know that no matter the mods, the 235 won't make you happy? You sound like me. Do all this crap to countless cars only to get bored & waste $ on the next one to do it 50 more times.
EXACTLY!

Now where can I test drive some modded C6s?
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GT350. Although you may have to wait a bit for all the hype to die down and they are easier to get your hands on.
I know man...gotta wait a while until dealers are subject to extreme market forces.
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Dude! How did you get that deal?
MSRP was $66k and change. It is an early MY2015 and the only options are metallic paint and DCT. I got about $6.5k total off the car - half from the dealership, the other half from BMW NA due to circumstances with my prior car.
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MSRP was $66k and change. It is an early MY2015 and the only options are metallic paint and DCT. I got about $6.5k total off the car - half from the dealership, the other half from BMW NA due to circumstances with my prior car.
Ok, but let me politely ask - was there any registration or tax? What about floormats?
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Ok, but let me politely ask - was there any registration or tax? What about floormats?
Yes, there was tax and registration, in fact. Very good question - thank you for asking so nicely. However, OP did not mention those things as inclusive in his number, so taking his lead on context, neither did I include them. Typically when talking about automobile pricing with no specific context established, one will tend to default to the pre-tax price of the vehicle in question. Even so, since the OP said "~$60k", we can throw in tax and still meet his needs. And that is still completely ignoring the fact that I bought the car brand new and he only requires a used vehicle. I don't know the Blue Book value of my car right now, but I doubt it is much above $50k. So we are well within his window. Of course finding a used M3/M4 with few options might be a challenge.

The car comes with floormats. I invite you to view our helpful pricing guide thread, where you can learn this and many other nuances of what comes standard.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1215972

Now, pricing has gone up twice since I bought my car. On the plus side, they now throw in Comfort Access, Harmon Kardon, and Satelite radio standard.
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EXACTLY!

Now where can I test drive some modded C6s?
Try on the Facebook groups & see if anyone local will take ya for a ride. I am sure plenty of guys will. I would if you were local to me. Definitely get on Corvetteforum.com as well.
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How about a base F-Type? It starts a bit above $60K, but I hear that dealer incentives are pretty good at the moment.
Gorgeous car and great exhaust but doesn't have the brutal acceleration of its R type big brother.

I'm a little surprised not many folks think keeping the FBO M235 and continuing to mod it is an option. For instance, put on a VTT, Pure or RB (if available) Stage 2 turbo, etc, etc. Kinda waiting for someone to talk me off the ledge hahaha.

To reiterate, I'm getting frustrated that the FBO M235i didn't turn out as quick as I hoped. Now making the choice to either go full out or cash in the chips for options 1-6.

Thanks guys! Your input is all read, considered, and valuable! For instance, starting to research the last gen Viper and C6 Z06 more.

Having had a C6 Z06, you need to know two things...

1.) A LOT of LS7's have exhaust valve guide issues from defective heads

2.) It needs better shocks, as stock it's a little sketchy.
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Having had a C6 Z06, you need to know two things...

1.) A LOT of LS7's have exhaust valve guide issues from defective heads

2.) It needs better shocks, as stock it's a little sketchy.
Thanks a lot for all the tips. So with problem 1 did you have to get a machine shop to redo the head?

What shocks do you recommend?

Also, what car did you have before the C6Z?

Lastly, what mods do you have on the C6Z?

I read that through its life, the C6Z went through several changes and updates that aren't generally known by the General public. Supposedly the earlier C6Zs were a lot less predictable on the track, etc.

Any MYs to favor or stay away from?
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Yes, there was tax and registration, in fact. Very good question - thank you for asking so nicely. However, OP did not mention those things as inclusive in his number, so taking his lead on context, neither did I include them. Typically when talking about automobile pricing with no specific context established, one will tend to default to the pre-tax price of the vehicle in question. Even so, since the OP said "~$60k", we can throw in tax and still meet his needs. And that is still completely ignoring the fact that I bought the car brand new and he only requires a used vehicle. I don't know the Blue Book value of my car right now, but I doubt it is much above $50k. So we are well within his window. Of course finding a used M3/M4 with few options might be a challenge.

The car comes with floormats. I invite you to view our helpful pricing guide thread, where you can learn this and many other nuances of what comes standard.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1215972

Now, pricing has gone up twice since I bought my car. On the plus side, they now throw in Comfort Access, Harmon Kardon, and Satelite radio standard.
Yup, it's ~$60k before tax and tags.
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To ALL:

Thank you so much for the continued feedback. Keep the info coming. The Porsche 997 Turbo is overwhelmingly the top choice so far, followed by the C7 Z51. Biggest loser is the S6.

Off the poll, a lot of folks suggesting LS-powered muscle such as the G8, C6, and CTS-V. A couple recos for the Hellcat and the GT350. I like both.

Keep them coming guys.
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Agree, agree. C7 looks like a REAL sports car. Shit, my son has 3 Power Wheels. One of them is a C7!

The dilemma I have is...I really like the C7. But...will the Z51 be "enough" or will owners pine for the balls out Z06?
The Z51 is enough for me and what i do. the Z06 is just stupid fast.

For me i just see so much value in the corvette. They look so cool, have great GM warranty, and the price to go with it. the GM v8 can also take so much more power with aftermarket compared to a BMW or 911. you can buy a bolt on blower kit for the c7 that cost under 10k and gives you 600HP. other cars can reach this kind of performance, but takes more money.

for around 60k there isn't a better car. Now if you wanted to spend more money that changes.
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Thanks!

Keep em coming!
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I just sat in a 6th gen 2016 Camaro 2SS today and was duly impressed. MSRP was $45,000 and they were advertising it with a $1000 discount before negotiation.

The car has so many standard features and tech bits it's crazy. Customizable gauges. HUD. 25 colors of ambient lighting. Wi-Fi hotspot. Heated and Cooled seats. Heated steering wheel. Rear camera. Parking sensors. Wireless mobile phone charger. On and on.

Plus it's actually a decent quality interior. I'm not going to say it's better than the interior in my M235i, but I think it's more interesting and futuristic looking.

And then of course the performance. NA V-8 with 455/455 horsepower/torque. 3.73 LSD. 20" Goodyear Eagle F1 tires. Same platform as the ATS. 3600 pounds.

No one knows exactly how good it is yet, but Motor Trend just did a Head2Head session with it at Willow Springs comparing it to the M4. Should be published on Feb 24 so we'll know soon enough. I'm actually thinking the 2SS is going to beat the M4.
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