Now is the time for a new Acura Integra

eluded · 03-25-2016, 11:47 AM

Acura is done. Can't they just go out of business? Nsx is an overpriced joke, there sedans can't compete with the Germans or the Japanese. There's no entry-level vehicles. They had a good run. Time to hang up

rcoccultwar · 03-28-2016, 12:17 AM

Can Honda not just reuse the S2000 frame? Put a 2+2 shell on it, keep weight reasonable at ~3150lb and price it under $35,000.

R/D wouldn't be that much, and it would give me an option to save some dollars. If the EPA allows, a 2.5L, 300hp?

CanadianGatorBacon · 03-28-2016, 09:50 AM

Listening to a story on the NSX, it seems Acura is hoping to be able to trickle down the NSX technology to other cars. The story noted how Acura has fallen behind in the luxury market that has steered toward the sportier German brands, and it suggested that the NSX tech will be used to make the rest of the lineup sportier. Maybe, Acura is getting back on track.

On the other hand, it looks like their styling has gone from bad to bland. The MDX that Acura debuted last week dropped the beak, but looks like they adopted the Honda look ... from the last generation, not the more aggressive current look.

Small steps forward, big steps backward. I'm no auto exec, but it can't be that hard to follow the formula of the successful companies. I know that plans are set in motion years ahead of when the product gets to the public. People keep pointing that out with respect to the current mixed vision at Cadillac. But, the lack of flexibility in these companies astounds me.

MightyMouseTech · 03-28-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheYoungConnoisseur

Yeah but it's gonna have a CVT or 8speed slush box electric speed sensitive steering and just all around terrible

This!

We no longer sell a single car with a manual transmission.

And people wonder why the techs that actually work on them, all drive something else.

fecurtis · 03-28-2016, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by eluded

Acura is done. Can't they just go out of business? Nsx is an overpriced joke, there sedans can't compete with the Germans or the Japanese. There's no entry-level vehicles. They had a good run. Time to hang up

They have an entry level car, the ILX, which is literally just a rebadged Honda Civic.

MightyMouseTech · 03-28-2016, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fecurtis

They have an entry level car, the ILX, which is literally just a rebadged Honda Civic.

We have had that here in Canada since 1997, the names have changed quite a bit though.

1.6EL, then 1.7EL, then CSX and now ILX.

ALL Acura products are just re-badged Hondas. Well, the first gen TSX was just an EU Accord, but I guess that means it really is a re-badged Honda as well.

We are supposed to be getting our own version of the HR-V soon. Hooray, SUV all the things!

Mywifes335 · 03-28-2016, 08:39 PM

HRV is pretty fugly. And the name sounds like a terrible new STD.

Mywifes335 · 03-28-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rcoccultwar

Can Honda not just reuse the S2000 frame? Put a 2+2 shell on it, keep weight reasonable at ~3150lb and price it under $35,000.

R/D wouldn't be that much, and it would give me an option to save some dollars. If the EPA allows, a 2.5L, 300hp?

Doubt it. Stretching the S2000 unibody would probably make it as stiff as linguini. Then there's like 10+ years worth of safety updates to make.

rcoccultwar · 03-29-2016, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

We have had that here in Canada since 1997, the names have changed quite a bit though.

1.6EL, then 1.7EL, then CSX and now ILX.

ALL Acura products are just re-badged Hondas. Well, the first gen TSX was just an EU Accord, but I guess that means it really is a re-badged Honda as well.

We are supposed to be getting our own version of the HR-V soon. Hooray, SUV all the things!

Additionally, could be wrong but all Acura's are technically imported. Honda's are made all over the place in North American factories.

A buddy of mine was boasting about his Accord months and months ago that it was Japanese. Told him it was probably made near where a bad batch of whiskey came from purchased a few weeks ago(Replacement bottle was way better.) Coincidentally, his folks bought an Acura a month or two later.

rcoccultwar · 03-29-2016, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Doubt it. Stretching the S2000 unibody would probably make it as stiff as linguini. Then there's like 10+ years worth of safety updates to make.

Even useless rear seats like in my current car would be good enough. Seen an S2000 in a bad collision and it appeared to hold up well. Safety updates make it ~3175lb then?

Viffermike · 03-29-2016, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rcoccultwar

Additionally, could be wrong but all Acura's are technically imported.

Not any more. The new NSX is made in a dedicated factory in Ohio.

Here's the Motor Trend tour.

PoorLurker · 03-31-2016, 06:55 PM

Acura needs to take the Sport Hybrid engine and drivetrain from their RLX Sport Hybrid and put it in the Acura TLX along with other exterior modifications to make a high performance version similar to the Type R or M or AMG.

I believe that drivetrain setup propels the 2 ton+ RLX SH to 60 in about 4.9 seconds, so in a lighter car mid 4s may be possible? That's plenty for me.

CanadianGatorBacon · 03-31-2016, 07:13 PM

Since we're talking about it, how about some old renderings:

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CanadianGatorBacon Lieutenant 238 Rep 417 Posts Drives: M235i (holy crap!) Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: D.C. iTrader: (0)	Listening to a story on the NSX, it seems Acura is hoping to be able to trickle down the NSX technology to other cars. The story noted how Acura has fallen behind in the luxury market that has steered toward the sportier German brands, and it suggested that the NSX tech will be used to make the rest of the lineup sportier. Maybe, Acura is getting back on track. On the other hand, it looks like their styling has gone from bad to bland. The MDX that Acura debuted last week dropped the beak, but looks like they adopted the Honda look ... from the last generation, not the more aggressive current look. Small steps forward, big steps backward. I'm no auto exec, but it can't be that hard to follow the formula of the successful companies. I know that plans are set in motion years ahead of when the product gets to the public. People keep pointing that out with respect to the current mixed vision at Cadillac. But, the lack of flexibility in these companies astounds me. __________________ Current: 2016 BMW M235i \| 2013 BMW X1 xDrive28i (wife's) Gone but not forgotten: 1992 Buick LeSaber Limited \| 1999 Acura CL 3.0 \| 2003 Volvo S60 2.4T \| 2006 BMW x3 3.0i \| 2009 Honda Fit Sport
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PoorLurker Custom User Title 1139 Rep 675 Posts Drives: a bicycle Join Date: May 2015 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0)	Acura needs to take the Sport Hybrid engine and drivetrain from their RLX Sport Hybrid and put it in the Acura TLX along with other exterior modifications to make a high performance version similar to the Type R or M or AMG. I believe that drivetrain setup propels the 2 ton+ RLX SH to 60 in about 4.9 seconds, so in a lighter car mid 4s may be possible? That's plenty for me.
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