[BoosTonian]

Solved.

E92 m3 Comp pkg..for 38k..ess 650kit for 8k used..sport cup 2 tires for $1200...kw club sports for 2500

$49,700 and you have a car that's less than the zl1 and better

But seriously. No stock m3 or m4 (outside of the gts) is going to outperform this car..face it, this battle is lost. And stop using "build quality" as an issue..go get your subframe bolts replaced.

[larryn]

Originally Posted by swanson

Both transmissions were offered at the same time. The auto's are the ones having the heat issues. I'm sure a few manuals too, but its mostly the autos. And this is on track only. Not street.

I'm talking about the track. He also had a 2015 manual Z06 w/Z07 package, though there were no changes to the cooling system in 2016. Had big heat soak at Thunderhill.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by larryn

My friend, who is a very good and fast driver, had one and I witnessed heat soak on numerous occasions in his. He no longer has it because of all of the problems, and replaced it with a GT4 (and also just got a ZCP M3).

Btw, you may not recall, but the heat issues existed long before the auto tranny was made available on the C7 Z06. There are long threads about it on corvetteforums, and people still have issues.

The car is a beast, but it does have issues, and eats consumables at an alarming rate.

At our local track Roebling Road it does not have problems , how about that . He did a 1:15.x lap there as well , which is faster than just about anything there I have ever seen , including full on race cars , so he is an excellent driver . He is always in PTM race so isn't using the TC as crutch which does increase heat because of the timing changes so that likely is at play for a lot of people who have had issues.

[angelr]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

At our local track Roebling Road it does not have problems , how about that . He did a 1:15.x lap there as well , which is faster than just about anything there I have ever seen , including full on race cars , so he is an excellent driver . He is always in PTM race so isn't using the TC as crutch which does increase heat because of the timing changes so that likely is at play for a lot of people who have had issues.

That's quick at roebling for sure.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by swanson

How is no one mentioning the shifting speed of that transmission? Its sounds like its shifting faster then any DCT I've heard.

That's because while the upshifts may be slightly quicker than a DCT, the true advantage of a DCT over a auto are the downshifts.

I have never driven an auto (when you ask for a manual downshift via paddles or shifter) that does it nearly as fast as a DCT.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

ZL1 is 911 Turbo.
Z/28 is GT3.

Think like that.

If we also agree that the 911 is Sebastien Vettel and the Camaro is Danny McBride.

[swanson]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

That's because while the upshifts may be slightly quicker than a DCT, the true advantage of a DCT over a auto are the downshifts.

I have never driven an auto (when you ask for a manual downshift via paddles or shifter) that does it nearly as fast as a DCT.

Even the downshifts sound fast though

[Rambler]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

If we also agree that the 911 is Sebastien Vettel and the Camaro is Danny McBride.

[larrysing]

Originally Posted by RedOctober

Except the Z28 logged a 7:37 at the 'ring.
I'm going to chock that up to SLOWER than the ZL1

The new Z/28 will beat this time. Guaranteed. The engineers learn with every version. They won't have a ZL1 that outdoes the Z/28 on the track.

[991GT3]

If I'm going to buy American muscle it would be a GT350R.
A Camaro wouldn't even be on the radar.

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

If we also agree that the 911 is Sebastien Vettel and the Camaro is Danny McBride.

Saw this glorious Kenny Powers doppelgänger on People of Walmart a while back

[CirrusSR22]

Camaro ZL1 1LE has been revealed.

Lighter weight, better aero, spool valve dampers, better, wider tires, lighter wheels, manual transmission only.

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/02/24/b...re-of-camaros/

[Mingwan]

Nice. That looks pretty sick

[paliknight]

Originally Posted by Mingwan

Nice. That looks pretty sick

I agree

[TSM330i]

Directly from the source:
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-spor...Q&gclsrc=aw.ds

Statements of 3 seconds a lap quicker around the Milford Proving Grounds (2.9 mile track) is quite a bit faster. That is a VERY tricky race track meant to purposely unbalance cars.

It'll be interesting to see pricing and how much quicker it is than the M4GTS.

[TunedM2C]

Originally Posted by TSM330i

Directly from the source:
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-spor...Q&gclsrc=aw.ds

Statements of 3 seconds a lap quicker around the Milford Proving Grounds (2.9 mile track) is quite a bit faster. That is a VERY tricky race track meant to purposely unbalance cars.

It'll be interesting to see pricing and how much quicker it is than the M4GTS.

It's rumored as a $6-$7k option.

[supra93]

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/02/new...-1le-puts.html

The latest generation the Camaro ZL1 was the top dog of the range on the track, but apparently, Chevy had other plans up its sleeves. Making its debut today at the Daytona International Speedway is the 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE, an even more hardcore version of what was already labeled by many as a track monster.

We had actually caught the Camaro ZL1 1LE back in October of 2016 while testing, but at the time, we had wrongly assumed it was a mule for the next Z/28.

Chevy uses the 1LE packages on the standard V6 and V8 Camaros to improve their handling, and it promises to do the same with the ZL1 adding special aero technologies, an adjustable racing suspension, exclusive tires while also reducing weight.

“The track-focused 1LE package offers progressive levels of performance across the Camaro lineup, from the V6 1LE to the SS 1LE,” said Al Oppenheiser, Camaro chief engineer. “But with the new ZL1 1LE, the progression takes a quantum leap — this is the ultimate track-day Camaro.”

According to the company, in preliminary testing, the new ZL1 1LE was 3 seconds faster than the standard ZL1 Coupe around General Motors’ 2.9-mile, 18-turn Milford Road Course test track. Three seconds might not sound a lot to the uninitiated, but’s it’s a huge improvement when we’re talking about track times.

Chevy says it achieved this without touching the ZL1’s 6.2-liter LT4 V8 that continues to put down 650hp and 650 lb-ft of torque and is linked exclusively to a 6sp manual (the new 10speed auto is not offered), through four key elements starting with the aerodynamics. New features include a giant carbon fiber rear wing, specific air deflectors and dive planes on the front fascia that generate more downforce.

One of the most important updates brought along by the 1LE package is the replacement of the standard ZL1’s Magnetic Ride shocks with the racing-derived, lightweight Multimatic DSSV (Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve) dampers on both ends, which was used on the previous Camaro Z/28 with astounding results. Chevy also made other tweaks to the suspension including a three-way adjustable rear stabilizer bar.

The ZL1 1LE rides on new, 1-inch wider, but an inch smaller in diameter front and rear forged alloy wheels wrapped in Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3R tires that deliver max lateral grip of 1.10g and which warm up faster. While the overall footprint grows around 10 percent over the regular ZL1, the wheel-and-tire package weighs about 1.5 pounds (3.3 kg) less per corner.

The use of lighter wheels and dampers, along with reduced thickness rear glass and a fixed-back rear seat, help the 1LE drop about 60-pounds (27 kg) over the standard ZL1 Coupe.

Chevy said the new ZL1 1LE will reach dealers later this year, with pricing to be announced.

[FriskyDingo]

Damn. That thing is going to break some hearts.

[DASHOCKER]

zl1 1le pack coming soon

[Vigilante375]

I can only imagine how much faster the Z/28 is going to faster than this. If it isn't, then GM has failed.

[Never_Enough]

Do want, but I'd want the ZL1 1LE w/the 10 speed auto.

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

Nope, the ZL1 is more like a high powered GT car.

This will be their track weapon...next gen Z28.

Full aero.

looks like the 1LE