[bd307]

You would be driving a super doper car instead of a BMW if you can predict and execute successfully for prices (including oil).

Just drive what you can afford comfortably and stopped worrying about "the future".

[BM235iW]

California fuel taxes have/are going up.

http://www.fuelingcalifornia.org/resources/quick-facts/

And

http://cafuelfacts.com/cap-and-trade-for-fuels/

[Fundguy1]

Way to go California! Adding just one more reason to avoid it at all costs.

[Meeni]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Way to go California! Adding just one more reason to avoid it at all costs.

Same just happened in bible-belt Tennessee and is also discussed in many other places. The fact that these taxes that support road infrastructure have not been updated in decades is a problem. The cost of roads increases with inflation, meanwhile the price of gasoline is commodity priced very low at the moment.

[Fundguy1]

Its not roads they often pay for. Each county in florida has its own tax on gas. The taxes in the liberal counties such as palm beach county have 30 cents a gallon more in taxes. Their roads aren't any better than any other counties. A more blatant example is the tolls set at bridges, etc in NYC. The tolls were created to pay for the construction of bridge x or tunnel y. So how come there are still tolls after these constructs have been paid in full for the past 30 years?

Liberals divert the tax revenues to other items almost as fast as they are passed. The liberal view is this will pay for roads and slow the use of gas and carbon emmissions. The reality is people will still drive just as much, its a tax on the poor, and the money will be diverted soon enough to help pay for the illegal alien population cost that California has that liberals desperately want because once these aliens become legal, they vote liberal more often than not, keeping the libs in power.

How about writing a law that says a tax mudt pay only for what it is originally intended and preventing the diversion of the revenues and see how many liberals vote for that.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Its not roads they often pay for. Each county in florida has its own tax on gas. The taxes in the liberal counties such as palm beach county have 30 cents a gallon more in taxes. Their roads aren't any better than any other counties. A more blatant example is the tolls set at bridges, etc in NYC. The tolls were created to pay for the construction of bridge x or tunnel y. So how come there are still tolls after these constructs have been paid in full for the past 30 years?

Liberals divert the tax revenues to other items almost as fast as they are passed. The liberal view is this will pay for roads and slow the use of gas and carbon emmissions. The reality is people will still drive just as much, its a tax on the poor, and the money will be diverted soon enough to help pay for the illegal alien population cost that California has that liberals desperately want because once these aliens become legal, they vote liberal more often than not, keeping the libs in power.

How about writing a law that says a tax mudt pay only for what it is originally intended and preventing the diversion of the revenues and see how many liberals vote for that.

Your life sounds horrible!

[mrmoua2u]

I call it bullshit when Governor Brown said he passed for new gas tax and higher registration fee for road improvements. Roads in California have always been shitty and never improved, years after years. His agenda is to get money for his high speed rail, nothing more. Californians, don't be surprise seeing gas price in the mid $4 again.

[fbsm]

Gas prices get ready to fall moderately

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/03/oil-e...s-decline.html

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by fbsm

Gas prices get ready to fall moderately

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/03/oil-e...s-decline.html

As i was predicting. Oil should settle down long term at $40 something a barrell.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Its not roads they often pay for. Each county in florida has its own tax on gas. The taxes in the liberal counties such as palm beach county have 30 cents a gallon more in taxes. Their roads aren't any better than any other counties. A more blatant example is the tolls set at bridges, etc in NYC. The tolls were created to pay for the construction of bridge x or tunnel y. So how come there are still tolls after these constructs have been paid in full for the past 30 years?

Liberals divert the tax revenues to other items almost as fast as they are passed. The liberal view is this will pay for roads and slow the use of gas and carbon emmissions. The reality is people will still drive just as much, its a tax on the poor, and the money will be diverted soon enough to help pay for the illegal alien population cost that California has that liberals desperately want because once these aliens become legal, they vote liberal more often than not, keeping the libs in power.

How about writing a law that says a tax mudt pay only for what it is originally intended and preventing the diversion of the revenues and see how many liberals vote for that.

The US Constitution made toll roads illegal. The tolls collected on bridges and other infrastructure are for construction and maintenance. But I agree with you, gas taxes are not used for the purpose intended. What is problematic about gas taxes are the are applied to gallons purchased and not based on the purchase price like other commodities one buys. So as fuel efficiency has increased gas tax revenues have gone down on a per-vehicle basis. The government(s) should reformulate the gas tax calculation and use it just for road infrastructure.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

The US Constitution made toll roads illegal. The tolls collected on bridges and other infrastructure are for construction and maintenance. But I agree with you, gas taxes are not used for the purpose intended. What is problematic about gas taxes are the are applied to gallons purchased and not based on the purchase price like other commodities one buys. So as fuel efficiency has increased gas tax revenues have gone down on a per-vehicle basis. The government(s) should reformulate the gas tax calculation and use it just for road infrastructure.

There's a big debate about the constitutionality of toll roads. But even setting that aside, tell the NYC transit authority and many others that. The tolls were set by them to cover construction, not maintenence of the bridges and tunnels when they were built a half century and much more ago. Their constructions have all been paid in full decades ago and the revenues generated do not go solely to their maintence. They are funneled elsewhere to pay for other liberal agendas such as welfare and housing. They've become a great cash cow for these municipalities.

[Fundguy1]

Google search where does nyc toll money go to see my point. NYC takes the excess revenuse from the bridges and tolls an uses them to pay for buses, rail, roads etc. This frees up tax moneys to pay for other things. The tolls do not pay for maintence of the structures alone.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

There's a big debate about the constitutionality of toll roads. But even setting that aside, tell the NYC transit authority and many others that. The tolls were set by them to cover construction, not maintenence of the bridges and tunnels when they were built a half century and much more ago. Their constructions have all been paid in full decades ago and the revenues generated do not go solely to their maintence. They are funneled elsewhere to pay for other liberal agendas such as welfare and housing. They've become a great cash cow for these municipalities.

Your baseless conclusions are fun to read.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Your baseless conclusions are fun to read.

http://www.doughroller.net/personal-...t-toll-booths/
http://nypost.com/2012/12/23/nyc-tol...in-the-nation/
http://www.infrainsightblog.com/2016...ourt-decision/

[Fundguy1]

Yes there is a common myth that the tolls were only fir building. Thats because the democrat politicians of the day said that's what it was for but it was never in writing and they knew by the time they were proven liars they'd be out of office and probably dead and they thought long forgotten. The myth now is it only pays for maintence. It doesn't as per links above. As for constitutionality of this it was challenged and lost in 2016 in federal court.