[e46e92love]

Originally Posted by gonzo

That commercial is catching peoples ear I guess. It got me to look up and my dad even brought it up on a recent phone conversation. Motor Trend reports the frame is up to 15% stiffer than a 5 series while being lighter. 368hp V8 that does 0-60 "well under 6 seconds". $40,000 completely loaded V8.
As I told my pop I would not buy one but the guy/girl who does watch every penny and buys for value, warranty and features, I think it will sell. Hyundai has improved their quality considerably over the years for whatever that's worth.

I would buy one and had thought about it as an everyday car. I think its a beautiful car on the outside, but the inside isn't great. The front dash and instrument cluster is something I would have to get used to.

[e46e92love]

Originally Posted by gonzo

08 IQS Ranking. Hyundai 114 per 100. Average 118.

Wow, our beamers are buckets of shit......thats depressing.

[shahils12]

you guys should really give this thing a good drive before judging. I didn't know it was on sale already, but one of my neighbors purchased one fully loaded, and pictures can't do justice. You wouldn't know its a Hyundai unless you looked at the badging on the car.

I got a chance to drive it, and it feels SOLID. Sure, I didn't take it on twisty roads to test it's handling, and I didn't take it to triple digit speeds on the freeway. But I seriously think this is a serious, serious contender to it's german rivals. You can't compete with it being ~33% cheaper.

Personally, I don't care what brand the car is. I purchased my BMW because I liked it's features, and the engine was phenominal.

The interior is definately not what you're accustomed to seeing in Hyundais. The quality looks superb overall, although there are a few things inside that make you think "why couldn't they just spend $100 more and change that to make it better"

The drive was VERY smooth, and I almost think it's got the comfort of a Lexus, and the driving passion of a BMW. Like others are saying, it's VERY obvious that they took the best of all the cars out in the market.

The exterior is just mind-blowing. It looks solid, it's agile, and while it doesn't have that unique look German cars have when they first come out, it CERTAINLY does the job for me.

I've driven everything from a Honda Accord all the way to a 55 AMG. Nothing beats this car's worth for money. If I were in the market for this sort of car, I wouldn't cross this Hyundai out of my list... it would ceratinly be my top 3

[josephr25]

Originally Posted by e46e92love

I would buy one and had thought about it as an everyday car. I think its a beautiful car on the outside, but the inside isn't great. The front dash and instrument cluster is something I would have to get used to.

I think it's the aluminum-look (real?) trim on the brown plastic (leather?) Change that to black or more wood... it reminds me of the current S-class.

[Gray135i]

Originally Posted by cstavaru

I am sorry but the car looks like an ugly 5-series clone. Its like someone took the 5 and distorted it and then sent one version of the distortion to Lexus and one to Hyundai. And look at the interior...I have never seen an uglier layout than that in my life.

And about the engine...I am sure its the same. They can copy more of the engine from BMW because you can't really see what's inside and you don't care its a clone. Let's see the fuel consumption figures though.

Heck, for an extra 1.6 liters of displacement and an extra 145hp, I think I'd give the Hyundai credit for keeping the consumption within 3 mpg compared to the 528i.

[TWiTCHY]

One thing is amazing about Hyundai, though - The 10 year / 100,000 mile warranty.

I saw a black Genesis in the downtown area of where I live a few weeks ago. At first, I thought I was looking at a Mercedes S-Class, and then from the side, it looked like a 5-series, and then I thought to myself who would buy a Hyundai for $40,000 when you could get something better for the same price, give or take?

EDIT: But I think most of us are waiting for the Genesis Coupe to hit the market.

[gonzo]

The TV commercial does make the car appear attractive. Another interior. The dash stiching looks nice.

[victor328]

Pontiac was also comparing the G8 to the 5 Series in their commericials. I think I would take the Genesis over the G8 any day !! Much better car than the G8.

[ptx1]

Most Korean and Chinese cars look like cheap knock-offs of better cars on the market. Even Hyundai's logo looks like Honda's, except twisted. Has anybody seen China's new SUV?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...ad.php?t=39499

I'm sure you'll get what you pay for with the Genesis, if not less.

[Potty_Pants]

Originally Posted by ptx1

Most Korean and Chinese cars look like cheap knock-offs of better cars on the market. Even Hyundai's logo looks like Honda's, except twisted. Has anybody seen China's new SUV?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...ad.php?t=39499

I'm sure you'll get what you pay for with the Genesis, if not less.

Comming from somebody who has owned quite a few different cars.
I guarentee you will get more for what you pay for with the Genesis and less then that with the competitors.

The Hyundai Genesis will be a solid , durable, reliable car among other traits. I look forward to test driving it.

my BMW has been in the shop more then my Sonata , has less miles and has more squeaks.

If i was in the market for a larger luxury car and not soo much into performance the Hyundai would be in the final cut.


btw you guys see how much the FX50 is going for loaded 65k... uh pricing seems off for infiniti on this one.

ppp

[Gig103]

Is it really a $40,000 Hyundai? That's absurd.

[Hoothout]

Originally Posted by Gripster

Everyone's being too sensitive. These cars are not in the same market space.

It's like those fake Rolex watches or Louis Vitton bags you can buy for $30. People that are on the market for a real Rolex won't look at the fake and say "I'll take that instead". Similarly, those that buy the fake cannot afford, or choose not to afford the real thing.

It's the same here. There may be a small number of price sensitive customers that will consider the Hyundai as good as a 5-series, but that's a different market from those who want a 5-series.

btw - the guage cluster is a rip-off of Audi, not BMW.

, the gauge to me looks like bmw but ive never seen a audi one oh well i guess ill for that one

[BK]

Originally Posted by noire07

Car and Driver did an article on the Genesis in this month's issue. They compare it with a 528i (reason was that they're closer in price), Lexus LS460, and a Toyota Avalon.

So, I Googled for this. Here is what I found: http://www.caranddriver.com/buying_g...on+id-269.html (C&D 2009 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 - Road Test)

"At no time will the term luxury sports sedan be used to describe this car. At least not by us. Luxury, yes, and sedan, obviously. But sports, nope, sorry, we’re putting that appellation on hold."

[harlequin314]

yes, the brand snobiness, and ignorance, (borderline racism-i guess the same thing) are still surprising. "I HATE JAPAN" comon.

Geez, hyundai came out w/ a good car that seems to perform well at a good price for a different market.

Not being sensitive but just pointin out facts.

btw, Pacman328

hyundai is a korean brand

and pacman was invented by the japanese

Originally Posted by PaCman328

just look at those pictures the outside looks like a 5 series, and then look at the gauge cluster, that just pisses me off , it makes me soo mad that a cheap ass japanese company can copy the looks of bmw, I HATE JAPAN

[TTG]

Originally Posted by roadkillrob

Just remember - the Japanese in the 70's where the crap import cars that everone said they wouldn't buy - the Korean's are catching on fast and in 10 or 15 years will be like Toyota's and we will all be making fun of the Russian and Indian crap imports!

+1000

Some of the crap that people are stating on this thread is exactly what people were saying about Japanese cars / products in the 70's. Like Toyota & Lexus, Honda & Acura, I am sure Hyundai will come up with a upper scale name brand in the future.....

It is also interesting to note that Hyundai scored higher on quality than BMW on the carts posted earlier.

[StewtheBassman]

Originally Posted by noire07

Car and Driver did an article on the Genesis in this month's issue. They compare it with a 528i (reason was that they're closer in price), Lexus LS460, and a Toyota Avalon.

Correct. And in this article they say that it is a LUXURY SEDAN, but not a luxury SPORTS sedan. in no way does it compare to a BMW 5 series in real world driving. It has a harsh ride on rough pavement and a TON of understeer.

BUT they say it is closest in fact to the Lexus, at half the price. Better than the slushy Avalon.

I am an open minded car enthusiast and I will test drive the Genesis. I am also a driving enthusiast so I would probably never buy one, I learned my lesson a long time ago that for me Performance>amenities, not the other way around...

So Kudos to Hyundai for upping the ante, but as long as their markets remain closed to OUR automakers I would never consider buying one.

[StewtheBassman]

Originally Posted by BK

So, I Googled for this. Here is what I found: http://www.caranddriver.com/buying_g...on+id-269.html (C&D 2009 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 - Road Test)

"At no time will the term luxury sports sedan be used to describe this car. At least not by us. Luxury, yes, and sedan, obviously. But sports, nope, sorry, we’re putting that appellation on hold."

oops you beat me to it!

[StewtheBassman]

Originally Posted by victor328

Pontiac was also comparing the G8 to the 5 Series in their commericials. I think I would take the Genesis over the G8 any day !! Much better car than the G8.

I drove the G8 with the V8, and it is nice but I wouldn't buy one, the interior comfort leaves a lot to be desired and the manumatic shifter is too far from the driver....as well it is not as taut as a Bimmer....

For my money better to buy a used 5 series CPO for $40k than a Genesis or a Lexus or a G8 or whatever......

[bimmerbimmer]

Originally Posted by roadkillrob

Just remember - the Japanese in the 70's where the crap import cars that everone said they wouldn't buy - the Korean's are catching on fast and in 10 or 15 years will be like Toyota's and we will all be making fun of the Russian and Indian crap imports!

Hey, don't forget the Chinese imports are "on the horizon" as well !!

[simp0man]

Embarassment is all I could feel being in one of those Korean cars.

[Year's_End]

Still haven't seen the commercial.

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by nyc328ci

i was watching tv last night and saw the commercial, after the commercial i had a gut feeling this thread would be born

ppl need to stop hatin on hyundai cuz they are improving their quality and the car overall looks great for the price, but its just not my kind of car

Agreed. I've said it before and I'll say it again here. People can hate on other brands all they want but the truth still remains that the competition is slowly catching up and that BMW is not the greatest car in the world. If other makers ignore Hyundai like how the Big 3 ignored the Japanese competitors back in the day, they will pay the price down the road. Sure people are hating on Hyundai because it's not a luxury name like BMW and it's cheaper. But I guarantee one day it will be a household name and some of you guys might actually end up owning one.