[FinalV8]

Well done, can’t wait!

Exact same spec minus color in BSM.

? - as I just roamed your site, are you going w KW (HAS) or MMR (HAS) or coilover for your stance?

I’m leaning towards KW depending on the drop, want it low w no gap (or rub). Ok….that didn’t sound good :-)

Lmao.

[rcouchh]

Good news. Even more excited! Thanks for the post.

[M3WC]

Hmm, so around 3700lbs with carbon buckets and some forged wheels.

[DO444]

Why is this car so heavy vs the g80/82.
I admit haven’t been following the m2 threads as much, but is this built on the m4 platform, that why it’s so heavy?

I would have expected it to be down about 4-500lbs due to the size.

[M2PDX]

Originally Posted by DO444

Why is this car so heavy vs the g80/82.
I admit haven’t been following the m2 threads as much, but is this built on the m4 platform, that why it’s so heavy?

I would have expected it to be down about 4-500lbs due to the size.

Please do some research.

It's 60 lbs lighter than the M4 according to BMW's own numbers, which are actually 60 or so lbs heavier than iND'S #s in this very thread. So at least 120 lbs lighter than a stock M4.

Add a lithium battery and forged wheels (which come stock on the M4) and you can drop another 60 or so lbs and get the car down under 3,700 lbs.

[DO444]

Originally Posted by M2PDX

Please do some research.

It's 60 lbs lighter than the M4 according to BMW's own numbers, which are actually 60 or so lbs heavier than iND'S #s in this very thread. So at least 120 lbs lighter than a stock M4.

Add a lithium battery and forged wheels (which come stock on the M4) and you can drop another 60 or so lbs and get the car down under 3,700 lbs.

I am doing research, asking questions.
Did you not hear me say, I haven’t been following the m2.

Literally in the question, in which I am asking questions about the car... not making statements.

Asking questions.

So,
You neither have to answer nor be offended, because I’m making no statements.

That’s not a big weight difference either way between the m2 and m4. M2 is apparently only a few inches more in length than an e30, kinda crazy it’s so heavy, but again Idk why that is.

Hence, the question.
What a ridiculous reply you’ve given.

[sl0m0]

Originally Posted by DO444

I am doing research, asking questions.
Did you not hear me say, I haven’t been following the m2.

Literally in the question, in which I am asking questions about the car... not making statements.

Asking questions.

So,
You neither have to answer nor be offended, because I’m making no statements.

That’s not a big weight difference either way between the m2 and m4. M2 is apparently only a few inches more in length than an e30, kinda crazy it’s so heavy, but again Idk why that is.

Hence, the question.
What a ridiculous reply you’ve given.

I think the point was that your questions have been extensively discussed and the search bar would have been useful.

And safety standards, technology, comfort features, along with an engine that is about double the power of the e30 is going to weigh more including all of the cooling elements necessary, bracing, etc.

[DO444]

Originally Posted by sl0m0

I think the point was that your questions have been extensively discussed and the search bar would have been useful.

And safety standards, technology, comfort features, along with an engine that is about double the power of the e30 is going to weigh more including all of the cooling elements necessary, bracing, etc.

Well, when I typed in “why is the m2 so heavy” I only get one thread related to m2 weight.

Hardly seems seems like a chore to ignore something you personally found boring. Seems more like you’re sore about that weight and don’t want to think about it. Not my fault. I didn’t bring it up as an insult to the car, but a genuine curiosity.

I wasn’t even making a negative statement, because I don’t understand why this car is so similarly weighted as the m4, but these responses are a bit defensive.

I’ll take it you have no idea.
Thnx.

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by N54B30A

Not anecdotal at all. During break-in, especially on a motor with the twin wire arc spray on the cylinder walls, the rings need to wear and create a proper seal to the cylinder wall since the spray is very rough and porous on a new motor. The better the seal, the better the compression and overall power. This is part of the reason why you never want constant RPM during the break-in period.

Break-in is critical and doing a dyno run on a new motor will certainly have lasting impacts to the life of the motor. When I broke in my S55 it was still showing metal in the filter by 10k miles after 3 changes.

Doing 3 quick pulls on the dyno with a new motor shouldn't do much harm. It's not like someone's beating the piss out of their brand new S58 on the street. It's those back to back extended runs on the highway that are bad. Right... ?

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

This article makes me pretty damn happy & even more excited to own one in the near future... !

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by npirnia

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a4...m2-dyno-video/

Seems the M2, like every other BMW of the turbo era, is substantially under-rated.

R&T dyno'd one and it made 469 rwhp - likely around 530 crank horsepower. 7.1 lbs/hp is pretty solid.

Also, R&T enjoyed the car on track as well:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...m2-track-test/

-Nick

That's a big bummer. I have to sign & create a ROAD & TRACK account just to read their new article on the G87 M2...

[sl0m0]

Originally Posted by DO444

Well, when I typed in “why is the m2 so heavy” I only get one thread related to m2 weight.

Hardly seems seems like a chore to ignore something you personally found boring. Seems more like you’re sore about that weight and don’t want to think about it. Not my fault. I didn’t bring it up as an insult to the car, but a genuine curiosity.

I wasn’t even making a negative statement, because I don’t understand why this car is so similarly weighted as the m4, but these responses are a bit defensive.

I’ll take it you have no idea.
Thnx.

I think you might be mixing my response up with something else you read. I didn't say anything that would even hint at you making a negative statement, nor anything that would constitute the statement that I am "sore".
Maybe you are just making assumptions/accusations? Or you have my response mixed up with something else.

[jmg]

Lighter than my M4 and just as powerful at a slightly lower RPM? This is going to by quick!

[williesm]

What's the bid deal? Did NA Nissans from a decade ago advertised 335hp?
With 20 years and a turbo i would expect more the 450 when E36 was 333hp

[jmg]

Originally Posted by williesm

What's the bid deal? Did NA Nissans from a decade ago advertised 335hp?
With 20 years and a turbo i would expect more the 450 when E36 was 333hp

The E46 was 338hp, the Euro E36 was 316hp.
148hp and 154 lb-ft more torque isn't enough?

[antzcrashing]

Bad ass

[DailyDownshift]

IND's numbers are right on the money! Uploaded my video weighing the M2 and putting it on a dynojet, it weighed 3762lbs on full tank of gas and put down 472whp and 410lb torque on 94 octane gas. This engine is not detuned at all, BMW are sneaky sneaky as always

[zero21]

Originally Posted by Daily Downshift

IND's numbers are right on the money! Uploaded my video weighing the M2 and putting it on a dynojet, it weighed 3762lbs on full tank of gas and put down 472whp and 410lb torque on 94 octane gas. This engine is not detuned at all, BMW are sneaky sneaky as always

The weight confirms my own experience as well. Thank you for posting. Do you have the dyno graphs? I'm Interested to see where the boost comes on.

[MichaelB1969]

Originally Posted by williesm

What's the bid deal? Did NA Nissans from a decade ago advertised 335hp?
With 20 years and a turbo i would expect more the 450 when E36 was 333hp

I’m assuming they didn’t have to deal with quite the same level of emissions standards as they do today.

[Reesnat]

Originally Posted by Daily Downshift

IND's numbers are right on the money! Uploaded my video weighing the M2 and putting it on a dynojet, it weighed 3762lbs on full tank of gas and put down 472whp and 410lb torque on 94 octane gas. This engine is not detuned at all, BMW are sneaky sneaky as always

Thanks for posting your video and sharing your experience, much appreciated.

As requested above your dyno graph would be very useful to see how the power is tuned. I caught a glimpse in your video and the same dip around 6250rpm is present as we saw on the dyno run from IND.

This is a bit strange for a stock tune from BMW to have any sort of dips, especially around the peak.

[DailyDownshift]

Originally Posted by Reesnat

Thanks for posting your video and sharing your experience, much appreciated.

As requested above your dyno graph would be very useful to see how the power is tuned. I caught a glimpse in your video and the same dip around 6250rpm is present as we saw on the dyno run from IND.

This is a bit strange for a stock tune from BMW to have any sort of dips, especially around the peak.

Will post it as soon as ECC sends it out to me, completely forgot to ask for a print out. Waiting for a screenshot

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by Daily Downshift

IND's numbers are right on the money! Uploaded my video weighing the M2 and putting it on a dynojet, it weighed 3762lbs on full tank of gas and put down 472whp and 410lb torque on 94 octane gas. This engine is not detuned at all, BMW are sneaky sneaky as always

Was your dyno pull pre-breakin service?