[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Connors5453 Congratulations. The G87 M2 in Brooklyn Gray looks great. And the fact that East Bay BMW provided this car at MSRP is outstanding. Steven Creek here wants a $20k markup. Every time I see this sticker on the front windshield I make sure to laugh & tilt my head back in front of all their salesman & cameras out in front of the main lobby doors, where it's parked.



When I get some extra time I'll make sure to try to capture a few of my beast at that San Ramon location. In the near future I would like to get an iteration of the G87 M2 as well. Maybe an LCI X2 M Competition down the line.

And the 2018 OG M2 was the best of that era. The S55 will never sound as nice as the N55 & the DCT was an absolute gem.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

That says something about how careful Porsche is to making changes

Hard not to respect thier careful way of evolving

Right- but also look to the Porsche 996 Gen debacle in 1998. To this day- the 993 sells 5 times the price of 996. For all intent and purpose- the 996 gen was BETTER.

But the ugly headlights and cheap interior killed it.

It wasn’t until 997 where they seriously reclaimed their customers. Imagine the 993 guys who just sold their cars and got into 996 cars with exploding IMS bearings? Disaster. 997 cars were MUCH healthier and in 2006 they introduced a beefier IMS that basically fixed the issue completely. But then by 997.2- we thought it was sorted with the elimination. Turns out that the 997.2 cars suffer from oil burn and bore scoring (I had a 2009 997.2 that Porsche bought back from me for that reason).

Whole reason I talk about Porsche is the lesson people have to learn in all this. Enjoy both camps. Let the two cars exist. In 20 years time there will be a true favorite here.

I happen to think the F series had a more timeless look (like a Porsche 997 had regained its iconic headlights it lost in 996 gen). I think in future years we will talk about the CS F series M2 as the ultimate while we all are charging our new BMW M’s

I really hope that’s not our future. Band together folks- if we unify now- they can’t take this away..

And as to my story about Porsche… I went back to the 997.1 mark and found a low mileage one owner car a few years after my lemon. That car has been flawless and I still own it. The “ less” desirable 997 ended up being more reliable and as time marches on... people are now looking at the higher rev’ing 997 cars and realizing it’s all sorted out and actually the better car/design/value. Just food for thought. Don’t turn in the keys on the OG M2 just yet.

But please guys- understand the success of this new model is what we all want no matter what.

[Io]

Thank you for the post and pictures!

I had a look at one that just arrived at my BMW garage. I agree that the interior is so much improved compared to the F87. I also like that the M2 finally has adaptative dampings. This thing must be a blast to drive

I would not buy one as this kind of aesthetic is not for me (I'm getting old probably), but it's cool that BMW is still proposing a "small" ICE-motored M-car in 2023!

But I can't understand why they go on NOT proposing invididual colors on such an expensive car while you can have one on a 116d???

[Io]

Originally Posted by Connors5453

I did! Here’s a pic!

Under this angle, the car is gorgeous! It looks SO wide!

[MMMGuy60]

Originally Posted by Io

Under this angle, the car is gorgeous! It looks SO wide!

Yup, the G87 just have a presence that the F87 dont. It has that menacing stances, low and wide.

[D22M2]

Originally Posted by Connors5453

Yup! Here’s some!

I checked out your car at east bay BMW - almost bought

[DivergedM2]

Love to see it - those rollers are FLY. Congrats on the new whip!

[Jmpascual]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

Connors5453 Congratulations. The G87 M2 in Brooklyn Gray looks great. And the fact that East Bay BMW provided is at MSRP is outstanding. Steven Creek here wants a $20k markup. Every time I see this sticker on the front windshield I make sure to laugh & tilt my head back in front of all their salesman & cameras out front.



When I get some extra time I'll make sure to try to capture a few of my beast at that San Ramon location. IN the near future I would like to get an iteration of the G87 M2 as well. Maybe an LCI X2 M Competition down the line.

And the 2018 OG M2 was the best of that era. The S55 will never sound as nice as the N55 & the DCT was an absolute gem.

The salesmen at Stevens creek don’t even acknowledge me, and I pulled up in a 911

[pdx_m3r]

Congrats on the new car! I appreciate your review and look forward to continued impressions.

I pick mine up today and have a nice 3-hour interstate drive home so I look forward to spending time in it soon...

[Zirenz2006]

Originally Posted by Connors5453

I did! Here’s a pic!

love that side profile

[zero21]

Originally Posted by JK479

Right- but also look to the 996 Gen debacle in 1998. To this day- the 993 sells 5 times the price of 996. For all intent and purpose- the 996 gen was BETTER.

But the ugly headlights and cheap interior killed it.

It wasn’t until 997 where they seriously reclaimed their customers. Imagine the 993 guys who just sold their cars and got into 996 cars with exploding IMS bearings? Disaster. 997 cars were MUCH healthier and in 2006 they introduced a beefier IMS that basically fixed the issue completely. But then by 997.2- we thought it was sorted with the elimination. Turns out that the 997.2 cars suffer from oil burn and bore scoring (I had a 2009 997.2 that Porsche bought back from me for that reason).

Who reason I talk about Porsche is the lesson people have to learn in all this. Enjoy both camps. Let the two cars exist. In 20 years time there will be a true favorite here.

I happen to think the F series had a more timeless look (like a Porsche 997 had regained its iconic headlights it lost in 996 gen). I think in future years we will talk about the CS F series M2 as the ultimate while we all are charging our new BMW M’s

I really hope that’s not our future. Band together folks- if we unify now- they can’t take this away. If we bicker about who is better- we lose precise time spent praising we all have a chance to own these cars.

And as to my story about Porsche… I went back to the 997.1 mark and found a low mileage one owner car a few years after my lemon. That car has been flawless and I still own it. The “ less” desirable 997 ended up being more reliable and as time marches on.. people are now looking at the higher rev’ing 997 cars and realizing it’s all sort out and actually the better car/design/value. Just food for thought. Don’t turn in the keys on the OG M2 just yet. But please guys- understand the success of this new model is what we all want no matter what.

Yeah I'm with you, but those rear bumper protrusions

[Connors5453]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

Connors5453 Congratulations. The G87 M2 in Brooklyn Gray looks great. And the fact that East Bay BMW provided is at MSRP is outstanding. Steven Creek here wants a $20k markup. Every time I see this sticker on the front windshield I make sure to laugh & tilt my head back in front of all their salesman & cameras out front.



When I get some extra time I'll make sure to try to capture a few of my beast at that San Ramon location. IN the near future I would like to get an iteration of the G87 M2 as well. Maybe an LCI X2 M Competition down the line.

And the 2018 OG M2 was the best of that era. The S55 will never sound as nice as the N55 & the DCT was an absolute gem.

Thank you! Haha definitely don’t pay markup…. This isn’t a $90k car. For sure I’m always around on weekends.

[Connors5453]

Originally Posted by JK479

Right- but also look to the 996 Gen debacle in 1998. To this day- the 993 sells 5 times the price of 996. For all intent and purpose- the 996 gen was BETTER.

But the ugly headlights and cheap interior killed it.

It wasn’t until 997 where they seriously reclaimed their customers. Imagine the 993 guys who just sold their cars and got into 996 cars with exploding IMS bearings? Disaster. 997 cars were MUCH healthier and in 2006 they introduced a beefier IMS that basically fixed the issue completely. But then by 997.2- we thought it was sorted with the elimination. Turns out that the 997.2 cars suffer from oil burn and bore scoring (I had a 2009 997.2 that Porsche bought back from me for that reason).

Who reason I talk about Porsche is the lesson people have to learn in all this. Enjoy both camps. Let the two cars exist. In 20 years time there will be a true favorite here.

I happen to think the F series had a more timeless look (like a Porsche 997 had regained its iconic headlights it lost in 996 gen). I think in future years we will talk about the CS F series M2 as the ultimate while we all are charging our new BMW M’s

I really hope that’s not our future. Band together folks- if we unify now- they can’t take this away. If we bicker about who is better- we lose precise time spent praising we all have a chance to own these cars.

And as to my story about Porsche… I went back to the 997.1 mark and found a low mileage one owner car a few years after my lemon. That car has been flawless and I still own it. The “ less” desirable 997 ended up being [...]

Well said, however, to each their own! I know many who LOVE the 996. But Porsche people are a different breed😂

[Connors5453]

Originally Posted by Io

Thank you for the post and pictures!

I had a look at one that just arrived at my BMW garage. I agree that the interior is so much improved compared to the F87. I also like that the M2 finally has adaptative dampings. This thing must be a blast to drive

I would not buy one as this kind of aesthetic is not for me (I'm getting old probably), but it's cool that BMW is still proposing a "small" ICE-motored M-car in 2023!

But I can't understand why they go on NOT proposing invididual colors on such an expensive car while you can have one on a 116d???

I agree! I think dravit gray, San Marino blue, and BRG would be amazing on this car!

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by Connors5453

Yup! Here’s some!

They’re F87 and G87 are way closer in size than I expected! That’s enlightening. Congrats on the new ride, happy to hear that you’re liking it!

[Connors5453]

Originally Posted by TractionControlDelete

They’re F87 and G87 are way closer in size than I expected! That’s enlightening. Congrats on the new ride, happy to hear that you’re liking it!

They are! I believe 4inches longer and less than an inch wider.

[ASAP]

umm so how does it drive vs an f87 in more detail lol... is it more stable, more settled, way faster etc?

[m2ss]

Originally Posted by JK479

Right- but also look to the 996 Gen debacle in 1998. To this day- the 993 sells 5 times the price of 996. For all intent and purpose- the 996 gen was BETTER.

The G87 is not THAT bad...

[Connors5453]

Originally Posted by ASAP

umm so how does it drive vs an f87 in more detail lol... is it more stable, more settled, way faster etc?

350 miles or so in, the car feels super planted and sturdy, hard to describe but it feels incredibly well built and handles the road nicely, it doesn’t feel like your ever losing grip. Compared to f87, it feels twice as stable but loses a little steering feel. Throttle and transmission is much more responsive and is a massive improvement. And yes, it’s MUCH faster than even the m2c. The suspension is also a massive improvement, being able to adjust for highway and back roads is really nice.

[BMW0412]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

You got that right. It's funny how fast they are to pounce on anything positive, they even read into it shit that isn't there.

I can't wait until they fuck off back to their own forum.

Saying f87 looks better than g87 is people’s personal opion, as someone who ordered g87 M2cs and never owned a f87, I’m still thinking f87 looks better. The g87 is a better car, but the f87 visually looks better to me by far.

Just like I owned both 458 speciale and 296 GTB, new design not necessary always mean better design.

One more thing, next time when u using F word please keep that to yourself instead of using in public

[Connors5453]

Originally Posted by BMW0412

Saying f87 looks better than g87 is people’s personal opion, as someone who ordered g87 M2cs and never owned a f87, I’m still thinking f87 looks better. The g87 is a better car, but the f87 visually looks better to me by far.

Just like I owned both 458 speciale and 296 GTB, new design not necessary always mean better design.

One more thing, next time when u using F word please keep that to yourself instead of using in public

Agreed! On all topics at hand.

[BMW0412]

[QUOTE=Connors5453;30092321]Agreed! On all topics at hand.

Thanks. Congratz again, trust me if I don’t like the car as much as you do I won’t order it lol