[Squidget]

Originally Posted by swagon

TL;DR: "probs the best driving bmw with a manual, G87 has lost the fizz"

As I like to say, the Supra SHOULD handle better. It's a 2 seater with compromised comfort/practicality.

If the G87 (a 4 seater daily driver) beat the A90 on all performance metrics AND also on practicality, with relatively close price points, it would be very weird.

And I agree, the baseline Ms have never really focused on being light. Not the ethos of the brand.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by Squidget

As I like to say, the Supra SHOULD handle better. It's a 2 seater with compromised comfort/practicality.

If the G87 (a 4 seater daily driver) beat the A90 on all performance metrics AND also on practicality, with relatively close price points, it would be very weird.

And I agree, the baseline Ms have never really focused on being light. Not the ethos of the brand.

Yes, but the Supra is a Z4 and the Z4 is not an M GmbH product.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by swagon

Yes, but the Supra is a Z4 and the Z4 is not an M GmbH product.

Sorry, I don't understand what point you are making here.

They are all CLAR-based cars, yes (as are all the G series cars).