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I can't wait for the Chinese cars (and I am including those with Western brands like Volvo, Polestar, MG, etc) to start imposing sensible pricing on the market. It's sickening that my M2 will be over $80K out the door (with taxes and a couple of port installed options). Still a bargain vs a $100K M4
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If you come to BP often you’d know this number reflects currentl X2 ending production earlier this year—NOT for lack of interest from buyers. U10 X2 launch is 10/10.
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A mild recession, if it occurs, will (we hope) bring equilibrium on demand vs supply as companies will be trying to keep financial scorecard positive - let’s hope for consumer benefit.
Just the other day, I went to pickup a dishwasher booster that had gone 40% price up everywhere online and b&m - in 9 months or so, crazy times. |
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They’re overpriced and look too Japanese
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While I agree with you about the design, some people need or want a BEV. Maybe it draws them to the brand. But more than likely it’s a conversion from X5 repeat buyers… hard to prove my theory
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[QUOTE=Bimmerfun82;30550048]While I agree with you about the design, some people need or want a BEV. Maybe it draws them to the brand. But more than likely it’s a conversion from X5 repeat buyers… hard to prove my theory
I would say you’re right, but I would never own a ev . Glad to see it’s not gonna be a long lived design. I think it’s discontinuing 2026. |
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Yeah the XM is a real head scratcher. No sunroof is weird and the interior is like the X5 mostly...
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New front end is terrible. New I-Drive with no actual buttons for AC, terrible. New dash with IPad like screen, distasteful. No air suspension. No acoustic glass...and more. |
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They could’ve simply added the new headliner detail, some of the other fancy finishing bits, & a full hybrid M variant/option to the LCI X5M and then have be done with it. Would’ve saved so much money-time-effort on the production of the XM… |
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Why is the LCI a big reason? The new X5 looks fine and the interior is impeccably well built. Is it my favorite exterior, no...but it's pretty good.
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Agree, looks like absolute shit. Interior is a bit odd but well built, gotta hand it to BMW on the quality front though.
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My M2 has the basics (i.e. no Carbon package or seats, no M Driver's Pacakge). The M HAS, M spoiler and the very, very high taxes in my state put me over $80K.
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So it makes sense this car sits on the lots. Ugly and expensive, the worst kind of combo. IX looks way nicer in comparison. BUT BMW is doing ok, growing in a poor year with high rates. Good on them, enjoy the US and EUrope market while it lasts.
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