[clydefrog]

aight I'm still hesitant on putting on front aftermarket grills but this definitely made me wary enough to throw down on the under grills from Zunsport...

[P0!ntBlank5436]

Originally Posted by forcefed

If you want you can add a $20 mesh from amazon on top of that skid plate for those little pebbles, should be enough protection from everything.
There's already been a handful of these type of accidents in the m3 forum, but they were quick enough to turn the engine off before any serious damage occurred. This will definitely happen more often.

Here's my dinky little mesh.

What the Amazon link for this?

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by P0!ntBlank5436

What the Amazon link for this?

https://www.amazon.com/AggAuto-Unive.../dp/B08PBL6MJ2 4x8 mesh
Just need to cut it to size

[P0!ntBlank5436]

Originally Posted by forcefed

https://www.amazon.com/AggAuto-Unive.../dp/B08PBL6MJ2 4x8 mesh
Just need to cut it to size

Awesome, thanks!

[Mike Whitney]

Something doesn't add up. Sure, the cooler is damaged and leaking. But - there is no oil slick underneath the car or any indication that oil was flowing out while underway. So the oil did not exit the engine while driving. Which means that the oil leaked out while parked.

Which means two things -- (1) there would have been a massive oil slick under the car while parked, which should have been obvious and (2) low oil warnings as soon as the car was started, not miles down the road.

What am I missing here?

[NickyC]

Absolute nightmare. I've driven F80/F82 cars almost exclusively for like 7 years now, including may long trips between Miami and St. Louis and never had an issue (our oil cooler is setup much the same way). This poor guy buys a brand new car and has the issue/motor destruction on the first day, what horrible luck.

So sorry OP, I hope everything is remedied to your satisfaction quickly but I have a feeling you're going to have a fight on your hands whichever route you go. Good luck!

[kyrix1st]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Absolute nightmare. I've driven F80/F82 cars almost exclusively for like 7 years now, including may long trips between Miami and St. Louis and never had an issue (our oil cooler is setup much the same way). This poor guy buys a brand new car and has the issue/motor destruction on the first day, what horrible luck.

So sorry OP, I hope everything is remedied to your satisfaction quickly but I have a feeling you're going to have a fight on your hands whichever route you go. Good luck!

I haven't been that eager to look at my G87's underbody, but I will check if the 6MT version is exposed like that. AFAIK, 6MT comes with extra mesh around the radiators unlike the ZF8 version.

[kyrix1st]

Originally Posted by M2siast

OP’s car is a manual.

All (F80/82/87/G80/82/83/87) are the exact same way.

The front radiator comes with a mesh inside, unlike the ZF8 for sure. I didn't know about the underbody one.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by xps

Bad news! They found metal shavings in the filter, the engine is toast. Can't imagine what I got myself into.

Before I go the insurance route, which I am dreading!

how do I approach BMW NA to look into this issue? Is there any way they are going to own up to their poor design? What are the chances I replace the motor and the same thing happens again while going to my home from the dealership? Looking at the size of the hole, it is a 1/8", I am pretty sure there are 1000s of small rocks on the road that can cause the same damage over and again!

Also people who ask to pull over right away- unless the driver has perceived that something hit underneath which in the case of a small rock we won't, it is not worth risking your life on tight or no shoulders, so one shoud atleast be able to drive 0.5miles from the low pressure warning to a safe place which is what I did.

That sucks dude. Hope it’s fixed up soon. Mishomoto skid plates about to fly off the shelves. There’s no reason anyone with these cars shouldn’t have one, and you should absolutely raise hell with BMW corporate.

[xps]

Originally Posted by fangelov

I will take a look at mine tomorrow and see how that part looks.

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No that's a pattern on the plastic see the second picture from the other member

Originally Posted by BMR.WRLD

So I just had to reference the other thread to see what I'm looking at. Yours looks much different
Added pics for reference

[xps]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

If you compare to the pics on p.1 posted by BMR.WRLD, that does look like damage on OP's care behind the cooler.

If you look closely at p.2, that is a pattern on the plastic

[xps]

Originally Posted by Mike Whitney

Something doesn't add up. Sure, the cooler is damaged and leaking. But - there is no oil slick underneath the car or any indication that oil was flowing out while underway. So the oil did not exit the engine while driving. Which means that the oil leaked out while parked.

Which means two things -- (1) there would have been a massive oil slick under the car while parked, which should have been obvious and (2) low oil warnings as soon as the car was started, not miles down the road.

What am I missing here?

There is oil all over the mid pipe, diff cooler fins, drive shaft, and exhaust. I could only smell the oil burning after I stopped the car.

[RPM33]

XPS: This is terrible what you have gone through!!

Let us know what happens with your insurance claim immediately.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by RPM33

XPS: This is terrible what you have gone through!!

Let us know what happens with your insurance claim immediately.

Immediately?

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

That sucks dude. Hope it’s fixed up soon. Mishomoto skid plates about to fly off the shelves. There’s no reason anyone with these cars shouldn’t have one, and you should absolutely raise hell with BMW corporate.

The Turner Motor Sports skid plate protects the entire bay (see pic) unlike the Mishimoto and based on all posts here and other threads, a much better, albeit a bit more expensive, option. IMO

[fangelov]

Originally Posted by xps

No that's a pattern on the plastic see the second picture from the other member

The pattern is there, but his looks to have a big crack in it.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Carefree

The Turner Motor Sports skid plate protects the entire bay (see pic) unlike the Mishimoto and based on all posts here and other threads, a much better, albeit a bit more expensive, option. IMO

The problem I see with that and any other "plates" that essentially cover part or all of the cooler, ut the restriction of airflow and not allowing the cooler to perform as intended (and needed).

[AZG87]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

The problem I see with that and any other "plates" that essentially cover part or all of the cooler, ut the restriction of airflow and not allowing the cooler to perform as intended (and needed).

Based on this concept, the screen design from Zunsport offers some protection but less restricted air flow than the plate design of Mish or Tuner? Or is there a 3rd more happy medium?

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

The problem I see with that and any other "plates" that essentially cover part or all of the cooler, ut the restriction of airflow and not allowing the cooler to perform as intended (and needed).

That’s a good point and before this work was done I consulted a local shop whose work is predominantly high performance luxury cars. At installation my car was, perhaps, the least “exotic” (BMW, Ferraris, Mercedes, Porsche performance models) of the 8-10 in for work. Anyway, the tech servicing mine said not to be concerned; the cooling will be more than sufficient. YMMV

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Carefree

That’s a good point and before this work was done I consulted a local shop whose work is predominantly high performance luxury cars. At installation my car was, perhaps, the least “exotic” (BMW, Ferraris, Mercedes, Porsche performance models) of the 8-10 in for work. Anyway, the tech servicing mine said not to be concerned; the cooling will be more than sufficient. YMMV

My concern is due to my tune (increased power --> increased heat --> cooling more of an issue).

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by Carefree

The Turner Motor Sports skid plate protects the entire bay (see pic) unlike the Mishimoto and based on all posts here and other threads, a much better, albeit a bit more expensive, option. IMO

The turner is too open around the oil cooler imo, good protection against flat curbs but not rocks. Just haven't seen any reports of people needing protection on the sides from road debris.

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

My concern is due to my tune (increased power —> increased heat —> cooling more of an issue).

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

The problem I see with that and any other "plates" that essentially cover part or all of the cooler, ut the restriction of airflow and not allowing the cooler to perform as intended (and needed).

That's why mishimoto offers a bigger oil cooler if needed, you should monitor your oil temps if you have any concerns. I doubt any of these skid plates will impede cooling, the s58 has gone around the ring without overheating, so unless you're running 30 minute sessions and notice oil temps reaching 140-150c then you need a bigger oil cooler.
A tune is not going to increase your temps unless you're going flat out for a long time, a few pulls on the street isn't enough.