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      10-30-2024, 10:13 AM   #45
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I highly doubt the dealership is going to keep his thousand bucks. For starters, most states have laws against it and $1000 isn’t worth their time or the hassle to keep it. Contrary to what people read on forums, it rarely happens unless it is some really weird build (usually Porsche etc).
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      10-30-2024, 10:19 AM   #46
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My car came in when I was out of town on a work trip. Drove me nuts after all that waiting, knowing it was at the dealer for 3 days before I could see it. But the dealer had no problem holding it until I got back. I think the issue is how you expressed that you may not buy it. I bet car salesman deal with a ton of people who waste their time and "might buy" cars then never do.
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I guess all the BMW people have been very riled up by this post, which I was mainly just trying to get clarification from a buyers point of view… I prepped the dealer saying I possibly had a trade-in, but wanted to evaluate the car first and then suddenly they’re talking about selling it out from under me while I’m going out of the country. Even though I have a deposit on my own customer ordered car! My trip is only 4 nights! I work an extraordinarily stressful job, with life and death involved every day. And I can tell you I need a little peace and quiet after having a child die in front of me two weeks ago.
So, Cars are my outlet.
I had a gated R8 for a long time, and I currently have a couple vintage cars and I wanted to get something modern again. The BRZ I totally bought on a whim, because it was a TS addition and the dealer gave me 3000 of sticker. The entire state only had like three for sale. Scarce little guys they are. Total impulse purchase!
The conflict is that i am also trying to become more financially savvy, and lately my significant other, and I have decided to go part time at work (because of the constant high stress) and do more traveling. The M2 has been a dilemma because it’s a relatively big expense with pretty hefty taxes and insurance.
The objective was to convey to the dealer that I am excited to see the car and they have a trade-in, but also a little hesitant at the same time because I have not test driven an M2. But only a 240i. Of the luxury car manufacturers I have the very least experience with BMW, except for a family [...]
In my opinion, you should’ve articulated this via phone call to your SA and maybe left out a few details. Building that relationship or at the very least articulating the aforementioned to the SA would have probably yielded you better results in your favor, and if not, then at least you would know the dealer is not worth your business.
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      10-30-2024, 10:34 AM   #49
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At this point I don’t even care about the $1000. That money was spent months ago.
But I’m happy to be saving 70k! Plus the insurance and taxes on that fat bottom girl! Phew!
Saved a lot of money triggering all you wankers 🤓

So many ppl rolled their eyes when I told them I ordered a bmw. Now it all makes sense. The douchery from the dealers I visited to this forum is just effervescent
bro the GALL to make a post about you sending a dealer the biggest douche bag move email of all time, and then turn around and call us douche bags for people very correctly calling you out for it. we get it, you are a special little part time stressed out baby surgeon or something that drives a BRZ for some reason. that doesn't give you an excuse to behave this way.
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I appreciate the OP. It's people like him that allowed me to jump my dealer's list to get a car sooner. When there are more serious buyers waiting the dealer has every right to move on to someone who is more committed.
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So to sum it up, you drove to a BMW dealership in your Subaru and wanted to buy an M product. Even put down $1,000 as a deposit on one.
Got cold feet because of the price of the car.
Needed an excuse to back out so you made one up. And now posted on a online BMW forum for the best way to get the deposit back.

Sorry we couldn't really be of any assistance.
Here are your real options
1. Buy the car. Start the actual process by filling out the loan application and so forth.
2. Wait for another car to come in and buy that car when you are financially ready, the dealer still has your deposit.
3. Tell the dealer you aren't ready and ask for the deposit back.
4. Tell the dealer you aren't ready and let them keep the deposit.

It's just a car and it's just a grand. You'll be fine.
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This guy is so all over the place

"Help dealer is screwing me" (title of the thread) over a $1k deposit

"I have the means to buy every M car at the dealer"

"I dont care about the 1k" (despite actual empirical evidence that he does in the original post)

"I'm happy to be saving all that tax and insurance money"

You couldnt be giving off I'm in debt up to my eyeballs but I make a somewhat decent salary vibes any harder.

Given what we know so far:

Surgeon, just in their fellowship or first year, but has 1-2M in student loans. They didnt actually see a child die but one did die on their floor a few months ago. "Drives" a subaru but I put drives in quotations because he spends 90hrs a week being an errand boy for the real surgeons and hitting on nurses in the lounge. Decided to get a BMW so he could brag to people on the floor about it, but all the nurses and PA's just roll their eyes at him because they know the BMW is actually just a bad financial decision.

Claims to have owned an R8 gated manual which is a wild card... im gonna go with "it was my car but my dad technically owned it"
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IMO, I'm sure the dealer and its paperwork say that the deposit is non-refundable. If not, then you have a valid case as far as the deposit goes.

But, that car belongs to the dealership until you actually SIGN the contract. Up to that point they can do whatever they want with it including selling it out from under you. Is that good business? Maybe not. But it's perfectly legal.
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This is nothing, you should check out a Corvette or Mustang forum. Mustang6G was th worst I’ve ever been on, they hate each other and everything else in between.
Hey! I read nothing but love on M6G! 🤓
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At this point I don’t even care about the $1000. That money was spent months ago.
But I’m happy to be saving 70k! Plus the insurance and taxes on that fat bottom girl! Phew!
Saved a lot of money triggering all you wankers 🤓

So many ppl rolled their eyes when I told them I ordered a bmw. Now it all makes sense. The douchery from the dealers I visited to this forum is just effervescent
Your childish behavior leads me to believe you are likely FOS about your oh so important job and everything else about you.
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I appreciate the OP. It's people like him that allowed me to jump my dealer's list to get a car sooner. When there are more serious buyers waiting the dealer has every right to move on to someone who is more committed.
Hondo P! 👍
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IMO, I'm sure the dealer and its paperwork say that the deposit is non-refundable. If not, then you have a valid case as far as the deposit goes.

But, that car belongs to the dealership until you actually SIGN the contract. Up to that point they can do whatever they want with it including selling it out from under you. Is that good business? Maybe not. But it's perfectly legal.
wait, but is it legal for the dealer to take a non refundable booking deposit, sell the car to someone else, and keep the deposit too? GEnuinely curious.

i get keeping the deposit if the buyer backs out. but how can a dealer take a non refundable booking deposit, then sell the car to someone else? unless they are only obligated to deliver a car within a time frame (meaning they can reallocate a subsequent unit to said buyer?)

for my local dealer, they accept a reservation without any charge, but this only holds for a week or so then you have to put a booking deposit down (non refundable) and there is either a unit in stock, incoming or an indent order placed for you.

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      10-30-2024, 11:55 AM   #58
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The guy made a strategic mistake and told the dealer his options and that he might not take delivery.

If you an to make up you mind once the car is there, you don't tell the dealer.

I don't think the dealership is being unreasonable.

Guy may or may not buy the car and has said that. Sure fire deal comes in, they take the money.

This is just business.
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wait, but is it legal for the dealer to take a non refundable booking deposit, sell the car to someone else, and keep the deposit too? GEnuinely curious.

i get keeping the deposit if the buyer backs out. but how can a dealer take a non refundable booking deposit, then sell the car to someone else? unless they are only obligated to deliver a car within a time frame (meaning they can reallocate a subsequent unit to said buyer?)

for my local dealer, they accept a reservation without any charge, but this only holds for a week or so then you have to put a booking deposit down (non refundable) and there is either a unit in stock, incoming or an indent order placed for you.
We don’t know the full context nor the terms of the deposit, but my guess is the dealership would allow him to apply his deposit to another car/order.
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Excited to not have to own a BMW yet stays in a BMW forum...

This level of uncertainty is why the car is being sold to a serious buyer.
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Hey, at least OP has a good sense of humor about my completely made up story.
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to wrap that stuff up... in germany there is a saying... every morning someone dumb wakes up.. you only have get him........

in this case someone who deposited 1k was the one.....
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At this point I don’t even care about the $1000. That money was spent months ago.
But I’m happy to be saving 70k! Plus the insurance and taxes on that fat bottom girl! Phew!
Saved a lot of money triggering all you wankers 🤓

So many ppl rolled their eyes when I told them I ordered a bmw. Now it all makes sense. The douchery from the dealers I visited to this forum is just effervescent
Geez, you have a lot of pent up anger.

I hope you can learn to calm down and relax. It would be good for your mental well-being.
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