[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

That's great that you buy cars without resale in mind. I'm on car #43 in just over 30 years of driving, so I do consider potential resale when choosing what I want next.

Re: the $12k increase to get the Java, considering my '23 has almost 19k mi on it already. So, I maybe get $60k for it & the new Java equipped the same would be about $73k. There's the $12k increase. The discussion about used cars is about the performance value of the G87. Like I said at $65-70, great. At $80+, one can get a better performing vehicle 1-2 years old, which is basically still new.

In order to get a decent 718 or 911, you'll have to go used if trying to compare to the G87.

Well I would consider you an outlier; turning over cars at the rate of one every 9 months on average or 18 months if you assume you own two at a time.

If you want to calculate it that way to get the Java Green you must also take into account the added value of resetting back to 0 for maintenance. Yeah, it cost $12k but you've already driven 19k miles. But I digress.

You equate a used car (1 or 2 years old) to a new car. So once again, if all that matters is performance and you don't care how the car is broken in or driven, you might be correct.

A 718 is a reasonable comparison and new it's significantly more than an M2 and the same value proposition applies to a 718 4.0. If the M2 doesn't make sense at $80k; I'd argue the 718 4.0 doesn't make sense at $110k when configured.

[fzr100098]

...and a used GT3 really doesn't make sense north of $220k, but apparently they are getting it

For the average street driver, it's not going to matter. You need to live on a low traffic mountain road or raodcourse to exploit what these cars can do - sadly most never see anywhere near 9/10s and it's more or less street profiling

Z06 is the better value in the 100k range imo - 600 rwhp on a dyno and very close to GT3 numbers on a roadcourse