[TXSTYLE]

Unfortunate for certain. All is NOT lost.

The style of play has definitely changed for the better IMO. This was clearly demonstrated with our Win in Boston while undermanned.

As long as returns in a month or prior to Playoffs...

[mjr24]

Regular season wins mean zero until after the AS break. It's laughable that you guys can make any assumptions or views on the Mavs when Davis has played two quarters with them. That being said, I do think they will be better in the short term......not sure what that ultimately means as they overachieved last year in getting to the Finals.

It has been confirmed the Bucks were someone the Mavs also approached about a trade and they were obviously denied. They apparently approached the TWolves, too.

It's still probably not a great trade just because Doncic is 6 years younger and he isn't trying to be DeAaron Fox....Doncic takes his time and he uses that to his advantage. Jokic is obviously a prime example of guys who aren't in any rush and won't be winning any physique contests but they get the job done.

I suspect the Mavs were worried he would re-sign for the supermax and then demand a trade a year or two later. With current cap rules, it's not that easy to trade a supermax or any big contract and get much in return. The Bucks just experienced this with Khris Middleton. Ironically, the trade probably guarantees that Luka has a chip on his shoulder about his conditioning and never again is out of shape in his career as a result...

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by mjr24

Regular season wins mean zero until after the AS break. It's laughable that you guys can make any assumptions or views on the Mavs when Davis has played two quarters with them. That being said, I do think they will be better in the short term......not sure what that ultimately means as they overachieved last year in getting to the Finals.

It has been confirmed the Bucks were someone the Mavs also approached about a trade and they were obviously denied. They apparently approached the TWolves, too.

It's still probably not a great trade just because Doncic is 6 years younger and he isn't trying to be DeAaron Fox....Doncic takes his time and he uses that to his advantage. Jokic is obviously a prime example of guys who aren't in any rush and won't be winning any physique contests but they get the job done.

I suspect the Mavs were worried he would re-sign for the supermax and then demand a trade a year or two later. With current cap rules, it's not that easy to trade a supermax or any big contract and get much in return. The Bucks just experienced this with Khris Middleton. Ironically, the trade probably guarantees that Luka has a chip on his shoulder about his conditioning and never again is out of shape in his career as a result...

The problem with that is Luka has been very vocal about wanting to be a lifer in Dallas. He's never made any indication he didnt want to be there, and neither has anyone in his camp.

As for viewing the trade, you can grade the trade now, end of season, in 5 years, whenever, and its still a completely shit trade.

The Mavs got worse. Period. AD has missed over 1/3 of games the last few seasons and is 31. Last year was the healthiest he ever has been, missing just 6 games, and he was NBA 2nd team. Thats his ceiling. (in comparison, Luka has been NBA 1st team the last 5 seasons)

There are also rumors now that his latest injury will require season ending surgery. The Mavs roster was being dragged to wins by Luka. AD hasnt been that kind of guy in awhile. Kyrie can get hot at times, but isnt someone you can consistently count on to be the #1.

And for those that say AD brings more defense to the team than Luka ever did, last season, Luka had a 113.8 defensive rating per the advanced stats, AD had a 114.0.

[GERMAN M3]

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

The problem with that is Luka has been very vocal about wanting to be a lifer in Dallas. He's never made any indication he didnt want to be there, and neither has anyone in his camp.

As for viewing the trade, you can grade the trade now, end of season, in 5 years, whenever, and its still a completely shit trade.

The Mavs got worse. Period. AD has missed over 1/3 of games the last few seasons and is 31. Last year was the healthiest he ever has been, missing just 6 games, and he was NBA 2nd team. Thats his ceiling. (in comparison, Luka has been NBA 1st team the last 5 seasons)

There are also rumors now that his latest injury will require season ending surgery. The Mavs roster was being dragged to wins by Luka. AD hasnt been that kind of guy in awhile. Kyrie can get hot at times, but isnt someone you can consistently count on to be the #1.

And for those that say AD brings more defense to the team than Luka ever did, last season, Luka had a 113.8 defensive rating per the advanced stats, AD had a 114.0.

Totally agree TheWatchGuy ! Personally, I believe the Mavs got the short end of the stick with this trade! Nothing against A.D., but he has been injury prone his entire career. Plus, as you stated…you can grade the trade now or in 5 years, but giving up your franchise player for AD who is 6 years older makes absolutely no sense! I mean damn, Luka took us to the finals last year! Just continue to build your team around him!!

And on another…..
I think this speaks volumes!

[TXSTYLE]

All I know... Luka isn't lighting up the Stat sheets by any stretch. Meanwhile, Dallas is playing with an energy and pace that I've been waiting for!
And that's With 5 of our Best out.
I wish Luka success.
But, I'm rolling with my "Team" period.

[GERMAN M3]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

All I know... Luka isn't lighting up the Stat sheets by any stretch. Meanwhile, Dallas is playing with an energy and pace that I've been waiting for!
And that's With 5 of our Best out.
I wish Luka success.
But, I'm rolling with my "Team" period.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m still sticking with my Mavs, but I’m definitely not happy with Harrison and management! I’m not giving up my 25 year old franchise player! I’m building around him! Granted we beat the Celtics and Rockets, and seem to be playing with a bit more energy….but that pace won’t be sustained with the number of injuries we have! Hopefully I’m wrong.

[GERMAN M3]

Exactly @Jared Sandler!! As I’ve stated before, it took Dirk Seven years before making his first NBA finals, and Twelve years to win his first! Sounds like Dumont is the clueless one!

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by GERMAN M3

Exactly @Jared Sandler!! As I’ve stated before, it took Dirk Seven years before making his first NBA finals, and Twelve years to win his first! Sounds like Dumont is the clueless one!

Not to mention the ones on his list, outside of Larry, werent exactly winning championships right out the gate. Kobe took 4 years and Jordan and Shaq both didnt win until they were 27.

It is very clear Nico and Dumont didnt think there would be that much backlash from this trade, and are now talking as much shit about Luka as they can to try and get people on their side. Its what makes it very hard to support the org with those 2 morons at the helm.

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

All I know... Luka isn't lighting up the Stat sheets by any stretch. Meanwhile, Dallas is playing with an energy and pace that I've been waiting for!
And that's With 5 of our Best out.
I wish Luka success.
But, I'm rolling with my "Team" period.

Hes still working his way back from injury...

Are you a Nico burner account?

[mjr24]

After thinking more about this trade....it's not a bad trade.

Luka is a great offensive player but he plays no D. Yeah, he can light it up if he gets hot....no doubt. However, guys like Giannis, Anthony Davis, they change the game completely on both ends....totally different level.

Dallas overachieved last year. They made the Finals but weren't some juggernaut. They weren't going to make it back this year as they were. They lucked out because MIN and OKC were inexperienced and DEN/LAL/PHO were injured, etc.

I get Luka is 25 years old....that's the hardest part to stomach. However, Kyrie is 32 years old....what's to stop Luka from demanding a trade in 2-3 years after signing a max deal if they can't find other people to put around him when Kyrie gets old?

They have 3-4 years to win with Kyrie and Davis...then they can get them off the books and start over if they need to. It's not a bad plan.

I think Harrison realized there were maybe 2-3 players in the league he would trade Luka for...and those players are HOF talent on both ends of the floor. Yeah, he could have gotten "more" if he had opened trade talks up for everyone. However, he thinks the team can win now.....getting 4 first round picks over the next 4 years does nothing for a team you are trying to win now with. They aren't rebuilding.

That being said, Davis needs to stay healthy or none of this matters and then it's a bad trade.

[lakefront]

Originally Posted by mjr24

After thinking more about this trade....it's not a bad trade.

Luka is a great offensive player but he plays no D. Yeah, he can light it up if he gets hot....no doubt. However, guys like Giannis, Anthony Davis, they change the game completely on both ends....totally different level.

Dallas overachieved last year. They made the Finals but weren't some juggernaut. They weren't going to make it back this year as they were. They lucked out because MIN and OKC were inexperienced and DEN/LAL/PHO were injured, etc.

I get Luka is 25 years old....that's the hardest part to stomach. However, Kyrie is 32 years old....what's to stop Luka from demanding a trade in 2-3 years after signing a max deal if they can't find other people to put around him when Kyrie gets old?

They have 3-4 years to win with Kyrie and Davis...then they can get them off the books and start over if they need to. It's not a bad plan.

I think Harrison realized there were maybe 2-3 players in the league he would trade Luka for...and those players are HOF talent on both ends of the floor. Yeah, he could have gotten "more" if he had opened trade talks up for everyone. However, he thinks the team can win now.....getting 4 first round picks over the next 4 years does nothing for a team you are trying to win now with. They aren't rebuilding.

That being said, Davis needs to stay healthy or none of this matters and then it's a bad trade.

Funny how everyone seems to assume the Mavs GM is an idiot for trading Luka.....but he was a genius last year. Who knows the inner workings of that team better than the current and future GM? I really think there was no way that Dallas was going to give Luka a Supermax deal no matter what. If he's as bad conditioning wise now as he is, what's his motivation when he gets another 5 years of max contract? Trade looks bad now, but like nearly every other trade in any sport we need to wait at least 3 years to see what happens.

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by lakefront

Funny how everyone seems to assume the Mavs GM is an idiot for trading Luka.....but he was a genius last year. Who knows the inner workings of that team better than the current and future GM? I really think there was no way that Dallas was going to give Luka a Supermax deal no matter what. If he's as bad conditioning wise now as he is, what's his motivation when he gets another 5 years of max contract? Trade looks bad now, but like nearly every other trade in any sport we need to wait at least 3 years to see what happens.

BINGO!!! ✅

I have repeatedly said: Who truly knows Luka character, health concerns, attitude, drive, etc more than the Dallas Mavericks!!!
Nobody!
Honestly... When AD, Lively, Williams and whoever else is out, returns for the PLAYOFFS, I dint see ANY Team stopping them.