[floridaorange]

Originally Posted by 3798j

It's not...stock '22 4XPro.

Great looking truck

[3798j]

Originally Posted by dscabra

No. The Ford Ranger and Mazda small trucks were the same truck.

I've been a pickup driver since 1982...First pickup, the Mazda B2000. Great little truck. I've found that once you have a pickup, it's impossible to not have one...indispensable.

[Zyvin]

Darn, I just sold a nice F150 for a steal with only 18k on it. I no longer tow boats, and it just sat in the garage taking up space. I did like it on road trips though (comfortable, 36 gal tank, plenty of power, more back seat room than a limo)...

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by 3798j

Agreement from another Frontier owner..."Solid" describes it well...and it handles much, much better than its competition.

The Frontier is the perfect size "real" truck and not surprisingly, is not much smaller dimensionally than a 1990s Ford F150

Used Frontiers sell for WAY less than equal years Tacomas yet aren't that much worse to justify the huge difference in price.

A Frontier with some wheels and AT tires with a bit more negative offset and well chosen minor exterior mods makes for a cool truck. The Nissan VQ motor is tried and true and easy to work on. I know that the prior 5 speed auto was stout. I don't know much about the 9 speed that they started putting in the 2020+ Frontier. I've heard it can be lurchy, jerky, laggy, etc.

[3798j]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

I don't know much about the 9 speed that they started putting in the 2020+ Frontier. I've heard it can be lurchy, jerky, laggy, etc.

It's the Mercedes Benz 9spd that's found in the MB Sprinter. Made under license by the Japanese transmission manufacturer, Jatco. I find it pretty intuitive and smooth...says the guy who's not a fan of automatics (this is my first auto pickup).

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

I don't know much about the 9 speed that they started putting in the 2020+ Frontier. I've heard it can be lurchy, jerky, laggy, etc.

It can be when it's cold, once you get up to temp I don't notice any issues. It's basically a Mercedes 9-speed transmission that's being produced under license by Jatco. Nissan has been using it for a few model years now in several vehicles. VQ V6 is dead-nuts reliable and makes good power. So far I'm happy with my Frontier, it does everything I need it to do.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

It can be when it's cold, once you get up to temp I don't notice any issues. It's basically a Mercedes 9-speed transmission that's being produced under license by Jatco. Nissan has been using it for a few model years now in several vehicles. VQ V6 is dead-nuts reliable and makes good power. So far I'm happy with my Frontier, it does everything I need it to do.

That's great to know. The JATCO 5AT in my prior 2003 G35 was great over 100K miles, 100+ 1/4 mile passes, and I believe it's the same 5AT used in the pre-2020 Frontiers. I guess I can expand my future Frontier search to the 9AT models too.

[erickonphoenix]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

That's great to know. The JATCO 5AT in my prior 2003 G35 was great over 100K miles, 100+ 1/4 mile passes, and I believe it's the same 5AT used in the pre-2020 Frontiers. I guess I can expand my future Frontier search to the 9AT models too.

I had a 2005 Nissan Frontier, I bought it was a great cheap truck that I just used for work moving parts around. It was just an XE. Think I got it for 7k with 30k miles on it and put another 100k on it.

I did test drive a Tacoma and although it's a way better truck it was also like $10k more. Granted I live in truck country so trucks go at a substantial premium down here, another reason I don't own one anymore.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

It can be when it's cold, once you get up to temp I don't notice any issues. It's basically a Mercedes 9-speed transmission that's being produced under license by Jatco.

Is Nissan using the Mercedes-spec MB 236.17 transmission fluid (aka: unicorn tears) in their transmissions? If not, perhaps running Mother Benz's fluids will cure the shifting problems?????

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Is Nissan using the Mercedes-spec MB 236.17 transmission fluid (aka: unicorn tears) in their transmissions? If not, perhaps running Mother Benz's fluids will cure the shifting problems?????

That I don't know. Might be worth a look once it's out of warranty and I start working on it myself, thanks for that nugget of info. Honestly it shifts fine once it's up to temp, that's usually within 3-5 minutes of leaving the house so it's a non-issue. It's a truck after all..

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

That I don't know. Might be worth a look once it's out of warranty and I start working on it myself, thanks for that nugget of info. Honestly it shifts fine once it's up to temp, that's usually within 3-5 minutes of leaving the house so it's a non-issue. It's a truck after all..

Sounds like my M2's DCT. Shifting is pretty janky in cold weather until the fluid is warmed a bit. After a couple of minutes, it's great.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

That I don't know. Might be worth a look once it's out of warranty and I start working on it myself, thanks for that nugget of info.

My former Ram/Cummins had a Mercedes-sourced 6MT gearbox, and some owners complained of crunchy shifts. Mopar used their own spec gear oil in it and not the Mercedes-spec unicorn tears that it was designed for, and one of the solutions for hard-shifting gearboxes was to use the proper MB-spec fluid and not Mopar's.....