[Viggen47]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

There are only a few video reviews that we are still waiting on, Doug DeMuro, Chris Harris, and SMEE150, Tim. Doug was in attendance at the Arizona press event, Chris and Tim were not.

I may have missed it, but any word on when Savagegeese will be doing a review?

[zero21]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

You’re on a BMW forum calling our cars overweight and cheap. It’s only natural that I’d respond by calling Alfa Romeos flaming dumpsters with trash-tier FCA reliability. You’re welcome.

Flaming dumpsters

Admit they are pretty, and fast. But yes, absolute turds in the build quality and reliability areas.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

Not sure what’s going on.

It’s this.

This dude is a strange cat. He's clearly passionate about cars, but man...really struggle with his videos

[zero21]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

There are only a few video reviews that we are still waiting on, Doug DeMuro, Chris Harris, and SMEE150, Tim. Doug was in attendance at the Arizona press event, Chris and Tim were not.

I hope Chris' is just him on track and able to full exploit the car.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

There are only a few video reviews that we are still waiting on, Doug DeMuro, Chris Harris, and SMEE150, Tim. Doug was in attendance at the Arizona press event, Chris and Tim were not.

Also waiting for Mark and Jack from SavageGeese. Heard they were invited to the press event but did not attend because of the time restrictions imparted by BMW. If anyone was going to provide a truly critical look into these cars, it was probably SG. I personally can’t wait for their full review.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by zero21

This dude is a strange cat. He's clearly passionate about cars, but man...really struggle with his videos

Lol! In my very limited defense, I copied the link as I usually do. Maybe my VPN was on? No clue, don’t know much about tech, I’m just glad I didn’t attach an OnlyFans link.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by zero21

I hope Chris' is just him on track and able to full exploit the car.

I am guessing we will not see a video from him until BMW UK provides him with a press vehicle.

You are more than likely aware, but Chris owns a F87 CS wrapped in BRG, British Racing Green.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

I am guessing we will not see a video from him until BMW UK provides him with a press vehicle.

You are more than likely aware, but Chris owns a F87 CS wrapped in BRG, British Racing Green.

Absolutely but he's also fair and calls out his own preferences. I also suspect with TC off he'll have a damn good time.

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by YKIGI

The brand went totally mainstream 15 years ago or more and hasn’t cared about anything other than selling badges while riding on the coattails of their original story ever since. Let me clue you in, these aren’t BMWs. They are consumer goods for the masses. Overpriced, heavy, plastic coated garbage.

Keep driving your E46. No one is judging you.

[THEROK]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Did I say they did? Porsche, however, is responsible for the majority of modern advancements in DCT design.

I didn’t say Biermann invented the dct either. You obtuse?

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by THEROK

I didn’t say Biermann invented the dct either. You obtuse?

Nobody cares about Hyundai and their low-end transmissions. Please stop directing this thread off-topic.

[heavyD^2]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

They didn't. It's the reality of modern cars that have to adhere to 5,000 safety and emission regulations from 187 different countries - while staying in business. I really wish people would stop regurgitating this idiotic talking point. The alternative is we don't get these cars - at all.

We live in a world where FWD based compact econoboxes like the RS3 weighs in at 3639 lbs so it's not really surprising that a car based on the much larger 3 series platform would weigh in around 3750 lbs. It costs massive amounts of money to save weight as look at how much the CSL costs for a measly 130 lbs of weight savings so while BMW could make a 2400 lb M2, nobody would buy it at $150k.

[THEROK]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Nobody cares about Hyundai and their low-end transmissions. Please stop directing this thread off-topic.

You’re the one trashing a known quality DCT offering as yet another eye test internet merchant. Lmao

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Please stop directing this thread off-topic.

Way too late for that now.

Furthermore, this thread is rather lengthy now at nearly 40 pages. Realistically, no individual in their right mind is going to spend the time needed to go through it. Edit, if so they might want to find a hobby.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

We live in a world where FWD based compact econoboxes like the RS3 weighs in at 3639 lbs so it's not really surprising that a car based on the much larger 3 series platform would weigh in around 3750 lbs. It costs massive amounts of money to save weight as look at how much the CSL costs for a measly 130 lbs of weight savings so while BMW could make a 2400 lb M2, nobody would buy it at $150k.

If they built a GT3 version of this car for 150k they WOULD ABSOLUTELY have buyers.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by THEROK

You’re the one trashing a known quality DCT offering as yet another eye test internet merchant. Lmao

Please, for the love of god. Allow me to stop embarrassing you any further.

Affected models include 2022 model year Elantra N, Kona N, and Santa Cruz vehicles and Santa Fe, Sonata, and Veloster N vehicles from both 2021 and 2022, with 53,142 total vehicles involved in the recall. Dealers will inspect the transmissions, replacing them free of charge when necessary. They will also reprogram the transmission control unit with updated software to fix the fail-safe driving capability.

Hyundai issued a "stop sale" order of the affected vehicles on October 7 and will begin contacting owners by December 5. In the meantime, owners can check whether their vehicle is affected on the NHTSA recalls website.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...-issue-recall/

[Humdizzle]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

We live in a world where FWD based compact econoboxes like the RS3 weighs in at 3639 lbs so it's not really surprising that a car based on the much larger 3 series platform would weigh in around 3750 lbs. It costs massive amounts of money to save weight as look at how much the CSL costs for a measly 130 lbs of weight savings so while BMW could make a 2400 lb M2, nobody would buy it at $150k.

RS3
- no carbon roof or seats
- AWD
- 2" more rear headroom, 3" more rear leg room
- auto vs auto the M2 is about 200+ pounds more at 3850.

is all the weight coming from extra chassis bracing ? thats my only guess. bmw crunched the numbers and felt trade off with the weight was worth it.

[ThesaVeliona]

Dear god, what the hell happened? Why do we have 39 pages?? Is this the only thread in BIMMERPOST that went too far with pages? Or were there more and I missed out because I joined in May of 2022?

[adc]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

The 911 gained 300lbs when it was refreshed in 2020. It went from 3100 to 3400lbs+ (depending on the trim). So, no.

Those numbers that initially circulated online are simply wrong.

These are from Stuttcars.com plus other sources, and corroborated by scale measurements from rennlist whenever possible.
991.2 GT3: 3116lbs
991.2 Carrera T: 3142lbs
991.2 Carrera S: 3175lbs

These are directly from Porsche.
992 GT3: 3164lbs
992 Carrera S: 3262lbs
992 Carrera T: 3254lbs

There were weight increases, but much smaller compared to BMW.

[Mike_H_]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

I find screen based interiors cheesy, ugly and potentially fatiguing to the eyes. No place in a drivers car - See Mazda for interiors done right.

To me, ID7 was just right.

When I decided to get the M240ix, found out availability was scarce and by the time an allocation would have come to me, I was told it would absolutely be a 2023 with the ID8.

When I saw that it looked 3 Amazon Fire HD tablets stacked side by side (not even iPad level), I was really bummed out.

I got lucky, a buyer ahead of me declined to finalize purchase of the vehicle they ordered, in the color I wanted and with every available option except active cruise control (apparently wasn't available at that time), so I took that deal and ended up with a June 2022 built 2022.

So, I was happy to end up with non-intrusive ID7, which offers more than I am ever going to fully take advantage of. My only real concern is how long BMW will offer updates.

[antzcrashing]

Is that grey Brooklyn grey?

[zero21]

Originally Posted by Mike_H_

To me, ID7 was just right.

When I decided to get the M240ix, found out availability was scarce and by the time an allocation would have come to me, I was told it would absolutely be a 2023 with the ID8.

When I saw that it looked 3 Amazon Fire HD tablets stacked side by side (not even iPad level), I was really bummed out.

I got lucky, a buyer ahead of me declined to finalize purchase of the vehicle they ordered, in the color I wanted and with every available option except active cruise control (apparently wasn't available at that time), so I took that deal and ended up with a June 2022 built 2022.

So, I was happy to end up with non-intrusive ID7, which offers more than I am ever going to fully take advantage of. My only real concern is how long BMW will offer updates.

I love cruise control, and absolutely despise adaptive cruise control. Am I the only one who finds it wasteful? I routinely get 1-2mpg better when the computer is not involved.