[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Damn! EV's almost got another Brit airport parking garage! Fire department had a 4 minute response time and the Tesla still nailed 10 more cars! And the hazmat was being sluiced down the storm drain, LOL.

Nothing in the news here about a Gatwick a/p Tes fire, first I'm reading about it on your post.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Condorll

And they will continue to vote for these clowns.

The winds of change should make even the easily convinced realise something is not right.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

UK gov asked people not to post pics of EV fires, maybe news outlets were told a bit more firmly.

Geoff will post shortly about the I-Pace going out of control on the motorway (with the driver being arrested by plod later) and the possibility that the vehicle was hacked.

[M5Rick]

Here he is talking with the I-Pace driver concerned.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

My M4 fob rides in this whenever car is off.

Snap! Got a few of those for my M as a key fob and for the wife's car, the thieving pos can't come at night or whenever to hot scan your key and drive away, the special pouches really do work.

[Car-Addicted]

Jaguar Ends ICE Model Production Before its Electric Car Replacements Are Ready
03/14/2024
Jaguar is seemingly sprinting full speed ahead to meet its goal to become an all-electric brand by 2025, as promised back in February of 2021. It’s three remaining internal combustion cars, the E-Pace, F-Pace, and XF Sedan, will end production by June of this year. The automaker’s I-Pace crossover is also ending production by the end of 2024, which could leave Jaguar without any cars to sell until the electric models are released mid-2025.
Jaguar promises we will see the new grand touring car before the end of this year. The model will then be available for sale by mid-2025, with the second electric model arriving in late-2025, and the third in 2026. When Jaguar teased the EV GT in April 2023, the "indicative pricing" was hinted to be set at around £100,000, which equates to approximately $127,000 at today's exchange rates.
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/jag...el-production/

Considering Jaguar's I-Pace issues, It may be time to short Jaguar's stock. The great mark that provided us with disc brakes, the timeless Jaguar E-Type, great racing heritage going out with a hmmmmm.

[Car-Addicted]

Had to post this because it shows how far the insanity has gone.

2025 Dodge Charger EV Could Feature Fake Engine Vibrations
We’ve heard about fake exhaust tips and engine noises being implemented into electric vehicles, but there’s still something missing on electric muscle cars: the bone-rumbling feel of a V8 engine at full-throttle, or even at idle, for that matter. According to a patent filed by Stellantis, the new Dodge Charger EV will imitate the engine vibrations of a V8-powered muscle car.
Mopar Insiders recently discovered the filed patent, which was submitted earlier last year. The new system is called Active Vibration Enhancement (AVE) and emits fake vibrations to mimic the rumble of a V8 engine by using a force generator that transmits vibrations to specific points on the vehicle.
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/dod...ne-vibrations/

What's next, fake Oxides of Nitrogen (NOx)?

[Car-Addicted]

EV startup Fisker prepares for possible bankruptcy filing, WSJ reports
March 14, 2024
March 13 (Reuters) - Electric vehicle startup Fisker (FSR.N), opens new tab has hired restructuring advisers to assist with a possible bankruptcy filing, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday, citing people familiar with the matter.
The company has hired financial adviser FTI Consulting and the law firm Davis Polk to work on a potential bankruptcy filing, according to the report.
Fisker declined to comment.
Earlier this month, Fisker flagged going-concern risks, job cuts and a pause in investments into future projects until it secures a partnership with a manufacturer.
Nissan was in advanced talks to invest in Fisker in a deal that could provide the Japanese automaker with access to an electric pickup truck, Reuters reported earlier this month, citing two people familiar with the negotiations.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...ts-2024-03-13/

To bad, innovative technology and beautiful packaging.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

EV startup Fisker prepares for possible bankruptcy filing, WSJ reports
March 14, 2024
March 13 (Reuters) - Electric vehicle startup Fisker (FSR.N), opens new tab has hired restructuring advisers to assist with a possible bankruptcy filing, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday, citing people familiar with the matter.
The company has hired financial adviser FTI Consulting and the law firm Davis Polk to work on a potential bankruptcy filing, according to the report.
Fisker declined to comment.
Earlier this month, Fisker flagged going-concern risks, job cuts and a pause in investments into future projects until it secures a partnership with a manufacturer.
Nissan was in advanced talks to invest in Fisker in a deal that could provide the Japanese automaker with access to an electric pickup truck, Reuters reported earlier this month, citing two people familiar with the negotiations.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...ts-2024-03-13/

To bad, innovative technology and beautiful packaging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Y9Gg1XLl8

Their in car software was awful.

[RM7]

The last Fisker attempt was real bad, bad mog for a hybrid system and ridiculous compared to their competition. Ive seen a few of them out in the wild…but it was never a serious company. Gotta separate the ones out there just serving to separate investors and their money vs. ones with viable products and business models.

[Car-Addicted]

Waste of Money? - Toyota Prefers Paying Fines over Investing in E-Cars
03/14/2024
More than half of all new cars should be electric by 2030, according to the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). But the auto giant Toyota doesn't want to follow suit, believing that a maximum of 30 percent of new registrations will be electric cars.
In a conversation with the magazine Automotive News , Toyota's US boss, Tetsuo Ogawa, explains how the company wants to position itself in the electric car sector in the US. The focus, he suggests, should primarily be on customer demand, not on regulatory requirements.
For the EPA to reach its goal of over 50 percent electric cars, the government is planning penalties for high CO2 emissions. Ogawa, however, considers the prescribed target unrealistic and therefore might produce fewer electric cars than required. Instead of over 50 percent, the automaker might only reach 30 percent. From 2030 on, this could be associated with high penalties. In the interview, Ogawa explains that the company would rather accept the fines than "waste" money on investments in electric cars. The focus would always be on customer demand. If interest in electric mobility increases, production of electric cars at Toyota in the US could also increase accordingly.
At the same time, the automaker from Nippon announced the return of its Land Cruiser series to the US market. However, the new 2024 model is smaller and narrower than its predecessor. In addition, two new electric cars are to expand the range in the future. Toyota's Chief Branding Officer Simon Humphries recently emphasized the company's efforts to explore new mobility approaches. These include hydrogen cars and new filter concepts that can absorb CO2 from the air while driving.

Suddenly I'm proud to be a Toyota Owner.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Jaguar Ends ICE Model Production Before its Electric Car Replacements Are Ready
03/14/2024
Jaguar is seemingly sprinting full speed ahead to meet its goal to become an all-electric brand by 2025, as promised back in February of 2021. It’s three remaining internal combustion cars, the E-Pace, F-Pace, and XF Sedan, will end production by June of this year. The automaker’s I-Pace crossover is also ending production by the end of 2024, which could leave Jaguar without any cars to sell until the electric models are released mid-2025.
Jaguar promises we will see the new grand touring car before the end of this year. The model will then be available for sale by mid-2025, with the second electric model arriving in late-2025, and the third in 2026. When Jaguar teased the EV GT in April 2023, the "indicative pricing" was hinted to be set at around £100,000, which equates to approximately $127,000 at today's exchange rates.
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/jag...el-production/

Considering Jaguar's I-Pace issues, It may be time to short Jaguar's stock. The great mark that provided us with disc brakes, the timeless Jaguar E-Type, great racing heritage going out with a hmmmmm.

A matter of time before Jaguar go bankrupt with that decision.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

A matter of time before Jaguar go bankrupt with that decision.

Who owns Jaguar? Current Ownership of Jaguar?
Tata Motors, an Indian multinational automotive corporation, is the current owner of Jaguar.
Tata Motors acquired Jaguar and its sister brand, Land Rover, from Ford in a landmark deal worth $2.3 billion.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Waste of Money? - Toyota Prefers Paying Fines over Investing in E-Cars
03/14/2024
More than half of all new cars should be electric by 2030, according to the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). But the auto giant Toyota doesn't want to follow suit, believing that a maximum of 30 percent of new registrations will be electric cars.
In a conversation with the magazine Automotive News , Toyota's US boss, Tetsuo Ogawa, explains how the company wants to position itself in the electric car sector in the US. The focus, he suggests, should primarily be on customer demand, not on regulatory requirements.
For the EPA to reach its goal of over 50 percent electric cars, the government is planning penalties for high CO2 emissions. Ogawa, however, considers the prescribed target unrealistic and therefore might produce fewer electric cars than required. Instead of over 50 percent, the automaker might only reach 30 percent. From 2030 on, this could be associated with high penalties. In the interview, Ogawa explains that the company would rather accept the fines than "waste" money on investments in electric cars. The focus would always be on customer demand. If interest in electric mobility increases, production of electric cars at Toyota in the US could also increase accordingly.
At the same time, the automaker from Nippon announced the return of its Land Cruiser series to the US market. However, the new 2024 model is smaller and narrower than its predecessor. In addition, two new electric cars are to expand the range in the future. Toyota's Chief Branding Officer Simon Humphries recently emphasized the company's efforts to explore new mobility approaches. These include hydrogen cars and new filter concepts that can absorb CO2 from the air while driving.

Suddenly I'm proud to be a Toyota Owner.

Insomnia?

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Insomnia?

No, just communicating with my IT guys in India. But thanks for your concern.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Crazy. The number of techs per EV is insane, no wonder insurance is through the roof in the UK. The car industry is chasing after people to be EV techs that have options a lot better than working on cars.

There's a new BYD, I think it is around the corner from me. They look the same as MG ones. Anyway, I'll ask owner or leaser of it how much it costs to insure if I bump into them on one of my power walks..

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Who owns Jaguar? Current Ownership of Jaguar?
Tata Motors, an Indian multinational automotive corporation, is the current owner of Jaguar.
Tata Motors acquired Jaguar and its sister brand, Land Rover, from Ford in a landmark deal worth $2.3 billion.

So the Indian conglomerate could possibly cover to a certain extent whatever may befell Jaguar should there be poor take up of their EV vehicles.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Firefighter posted this.

EV Battery fires are a unique danger. First off, its an electrical (class charley) fire, so the car is considered deranged equipment as you don't know if parts of the car would now carry an electrical charge (electrocution risk) and it's also a class alpha fire) as the solids from the car body, interior, etc.. start to combust. Lastly, it’s also a class delta (burning metal) fire for which water is NOT a good extinguishing agent. Combine those factors and consider the risk if owning/charging an EV indoors is a good idea.

Toxic gas is free of charge. Breath in as much as you want !!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

He sums up the Insanity around Green Insanity and EV mandates quite well.

My hero!

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Burning Lithium reaches temperatures of 2,000 degrees Celsius/3,632 degrees Fahrenheit.
LiPo fires are self oxidizing.

That is the recommendation of charging LiPo battery in the RC world. I guess the EV owners should do the same to their EV cars

How to use a Lipo Charge bag

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

They really did dodge a bullet at Gatwick.

For the cause? I'm not so sure, an airport worker has said a Tesla in a long term car park erupted in flames and destroyed 11 other cars around it.

More cars were destroyed at a salvage yard in Rochford when an EV erupted in flames taking other salvage cars with it, it's not known if the EV was salvage or not.
The big question from the speaker is would you park your gas car next to or anywhere near an EV in a multi storey car park?
As Inspector Callahan says in Dirty Harry 'you've got to ask yourself one question, do you feel lucky''?

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

UK gov asked people not to post pics of EV fires, maybe news outlets were told a bit more firmly.

Only TV shows like The House of Wives are allowed