[Watching The World Burn]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

^ And yet they found him guilty of negligent discharge of a firearm, IIRC.

Where did he get said firearm? From abusing an officer.

Case closed. . .


When I retire, I am going to do everything in my power to get called for jury duty as often as possible.

Won't matter. All you need is one dumbass and the jury is hung. And there's plenty of those in Cali.

[vreihen16]

A jury isn't 12 of your peers, but rather a dozen people who were all too dumb to get out of jury duty.....

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

A jury isn't 12 of your peers, but rather a dozen people who were all too dumb to get out of jury duty.....

There is an age-related corollary, I believe.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

A jury isn't 12 of your peers, but rather a dozen people who were all too dumb to get out of jury duty.....

I must be pretty dumb. I actually enjoy jury duty. It didn't hurt that I still received my salary while doing my civic duty.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

I must be pretty dumb. I actually enjoy jury duty. It didn't hurt that I still received my salary while doing my civic duty.

I really enjoyed three months of GRAND Jury duty a few years ago, and most of my co-jurors were upset when our term ended. I'd do it again in a heartbeat if ever called again.....

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

I must be pretty dumb. I actually enjoy jury duty. It didn't hurt that I still received my salary while doing my civic duty.

Me too. Although it’s a pain in the ass, I do enjoy the process. Last time I served, I turned the jury around in a civil case.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

I must be pretty dumb. I actually enjoy jury duty. It didn't hurt that I still received my salary while doing my civic duty.

Arraign the guilty party......I don't think I'd get picked.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Arraign the guilty party......I don't think I'd get picked.

I heard one of the best answers if one wants to get out of jury duty...

Cops don't arrest innocent people.

[jamesinaz]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

I really enjoyed three months of GRAND Jury duty a few years ago, and most of my co-jurors were upset when our term ended. I'd do it again in a heartbeat if ever called again.....

Only time I got called for duty was this year. It was for a murder trial by a black gang banger against another black gang banger. I feel serving on a jury is something we should consider important like voting. I would never "try to get out of jury duty".

Having said that I was none too pleased to learn it was going to be a 6 week trial and every day was an hour each way drive through the worst part of traffic in Phoenix. So I confess when they determined I might not be open minded and released me I was happy.

Note - I did not and would not lie on the voir dire. I think there were two questions that probably got me booted and I can't lie on them. One was "Do you think all gang members are criminals - and why"? I answered yes and because that is the point of a criminal gang.

The second question was "Do you own guns, how many and what kind"? I said yes, not sure how many, and shotguns, handguns, assault rifles and machine guns.

I don't think either side wanted anything to do with me.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by jamesinaz

Only time I got called for duty was this year. It was for a murder trial by a black gang banger against another black gang banger. I feel serving on a jury is something we should consider important like voting. I would never "try to get out of jury duty".

Having said that I was none too pleased to learn it was going to be a 6 week trial and every day was an hour each way drive through the worst part of traffic in Phoenix. So I confess when they determined I might not be open minded and released me I was happy.

Note - I did not and would not lie on the voir dire. I think there were two questions that probably got me booted and I can't lie on them. One was "Do you think all gang members are criminals - and why"? I answered yes and because that is the point of a criminal gang.

The second question was "Do you own guns, how many and what kind"? I said yes, not sure how many, and shotguns, handguns, assault rifles and machine guns.

I don't think either side wanted anything to do with me.

I'm not too sure I'd answer that second question.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

I'm not too sure I'd answer that second question.

In these parts, the judges are the issuing authorities for all pistol permits. They probably already know at least half of the answer from your CCW's list of pistols.....

[jamesinaz]

In Arizona no one has a list of what firearms I own. There are none registered. However, the fully automatic weapons and suppressors are all NFA registered and the feds already know I have a few (ahem) weapons in my house.

[Sedan_Clan]

I’m moving to Nevada in the next 45-60 days, but I will still work in California as deputy; it’s not worth it to leave my department at this point. I will commute the 3-ish hours in Wednesday mornings and drive home Saturday nights; staying with family or at the station during my four day work week. I cannot wait to get out of here, especially with the looming bill designed to tax people fleeing the state; penalizing residents for fleeing the problems politicians [and wayward voters] created. I will already be gone before that potentially goes into effect.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I’m moving to Nevada in the next 45-60 days, but I will still work in California as deputy; it’s not worth it to leave my department at this point. I will commute the 3-ish hours in Wednesday mornings and drive home Saturday nights; staying with family or at the station during my four day work week. I cannot wait to get out of here, especially with the looming bill designed to tax people fleeing the state; penalizing residents for fleeing the problems politicians [and wayward voters] created. I will already be gone before that potentially goes into effect.

It is a real shame what's happening in so many places that should be great to live. Keep your head down and good luck with the move.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

It is a real shame what's happening in so many places that should be great to live. Keep your head down and good luck with the move.

Thanks brother! I appreciate that. It sucks to have to make the hard decision to leave this state. There’s so much to offer here geographically, but it is run so poorly that it isn’t worth staying here anymore.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Thanks brother! I appreciate that. It sucks to have to make the hard decision to leave this state. There’s so much to offer here geographically, but it is run so poorly that it isn’t worth staying here anymore.

I get the sense it's going to get a lot worse before it get's better.

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I’m moving to Nevada in the next 45-60 days, but I will still work in California as deputy; it’s not worth it to leave my department at this point. I will commute the 3-ish hours in Wednesday mornings and drive home Saturday nights; staying with family or at the station during my four day work week. I cannot wait to get out of here, especially with the looming bill designed to tax people fleeing the state; penalizing residents for fleeing the problems politicians [and wayward voters] created. I will already be gone before that potentially goes into effect.

Edit: In the following post I incorrectly mentioned Arizona instead of Nevada. I've removed the part about income tax impact.

All the best to you. It sounds like a long work week for you but you need to go, go for it!



Regarding your comment about the looming bill to tax people leaving California: If you are referring to AB2088, I don't think you need to worry. They are proposing this new wealth and exit tax on individuals with incomes over $30 million per year. So, while this proposed bill is crazy, it does not affect us normal people at all.

Best of luck. Let us know how it goes.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

...

Regarding your comment about the looming bill to tax people leaving California: If you are referring to AB2088, I don't think you need to worry. They are proposing this new wealth and exit tax on individuals with incomes over $30 million per year. So, while this proposed bill is crazy, it does not affect us normal people at all.

Best of luck. Let us know how it goes.

Yet.

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Yet.

It was not my intention to derail this great thread into a political discussion about California. My comment was simply to point out that one of the reasons that sedan_clan pointed out has nothing to do with those of us who make less than $30 million. Personally, I'm not at all worried about AB 2088 being a stepping stone to put an exit tax on normal taxpayers and I wouldn't make a life-changing decision such as moving out of the state based solely on worrying that it could happen someday in the future. Sedan_clan has multiple valid reasons for deciding to move to Arizona. I'm just saying that AB 2088 should probably not be a key reason because it only affects the super rich.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

Sedan_clan has multiple valid reasons for deciding to move to Arizona.

I thought that he said Nevada?????

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

I thought that he said Nevada?????

My mistake. He did say Nevada. Thanks for correcting. I'm an idiot!!

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

My mistake. He did say Nevada. Thanks for correcting. I'm an idiot!!

Not as big of an idiot as me, who left his Las Vegas hotel to drive across the California border without his road atlas and wound up in Arizona instead.....