[rcouchh]

Originally Posted by skiparock

Lotus emira vs g87, looking forward to how these will compare in manual as price will likely be within 5k of each other

Emira base price is $77k, no shot the G87 base price will be $72k.

Totally different applications IMO as well

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

Emira base price is $77k, no shot the G87 base price will be $72k.

Totally different applications IMO as well

Agreed 💯

The incoming G87 will start well below $65K

[StickyPickle]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

IMO the Emira will not really touch the performance of the M2

The Emira is definitely a looker without question

Agree, the G87 will smoke an Emira. Was seriously considering the Lotus but some of the recent driving impressions have kinda turned me off so sticking with my allocation spot for a G87 for now. It's such a shame because the Emira is so damn gorgeous but they will only offer that Toyota V6 with the manual. The AMG 4 banger will no doubt have more head room to increase power over the Toyota V6 but it's only offered with automatic so that was a no go for me.

I'm hoping they come out with a Emira GT a few years down the road with better performance because that thing looks too damn good to have the performance it has

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by StickyPickle

Agree, the G87 will smoke an Emira. Was seriously considering the Lotus but some of the recent driving impressions have kinda turned me off so sticking with my allocation spot for a G87 for now. It's such a shame because the Emira is so damn gorgeous but they will only offer that Toyota V6 with the manual. The AMG 4 banger will no doubt have more head room to increase power over the Toyota V6 but it's only offered with automatic so that was a no go for me.

I'm hoping they come out with a Emira GT a few years down the road with better performance because that thing looks too damn good to have the performance it has

That Mercedes engine is amazing but it is pushed to the limit from the factory

It has nothing on a BMW turbo six that's for damn sure

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Agreed 💯

The incoming G87 will start well below $65K

An F87 started at $59k... so not sure how much it could start at below 65... but I think it will be around the 64k range... there are 3% price increases just year over year right now without taking into account a brand new model.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by ASAP

An F87 started at $59k... so not sure how much it could start at below 65... but I think it will be around the 64k range... there are 3% price increases just year over year right now without taking into account a brand new model.

The F87 started @ 52K MSRP in the US

My 2018 OG M2 with DCT, Executive Pack, and Moonroof came to 61K MSRP

I believe the base G87 M2 will come in at roughly $64K w/a 6speed manual

Just a factoid the 1 M coupe came in at 46,135 brand new in the US

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

The F87 started @ 52K MSRP in the US

My 2018 OG M2 with DCT, Executive Pack, and Moonroof came to 61K MSRP

I believe the base G87 M2 will come in at roughly $64K w/a 6speed manual

Just a factoid the 1 M coupe came in at 46,135 brand new in the US

I was clearly referring to the comp... the OG cant be used as a point of comparo for anything as it was N55 based and was missing many M bits... mirrors, seats etc... that won't happen again.

But yea 64k sounds roughly right to me... so probably 70 for a decent one.

[///M TOWN]

OG can be used as a great reference point

The Comp was just under 60k so I think a base G87 will be 65K tops

I'm sure BMW made way more selling the OG M2 vs the M2 Comp

[akkando]

63995 + 995 destination fee. So 65k

[bbadillo]

Originally Posted by ASAP

An F87 started at $59k... so not sure how much it could start at below 65... but I think it will be around the 64k range... there are 3% price increases just year over year right now without taking into account a brand new model.

Plus the 5-10k mark up

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by akkando

63995 + 995 destination fee. So 65k

From $58,995 plus destination was M2 Competition MSRP, so I could see the G87 (no options) starting at 63,995 plus des.

Markup is a whole other story, the dealer's ADM at the original April 2016 M2 launch was absolutely shameless, where it was Wild West of dealer pricing. I expect similar behavior at the G87 release. I figure it's going to be a good two years after its initial run before it stabilizes to the set MSRP.

So whip out the ass lube if you want to be the new kid on the block with a shiny new G87 M2.

[M3WC]

MY21 - M2 comp(dct) $61,800
MY21 - M4 comp $74,700
20.8% prem for M4.

MY23 - M4 base $74,700
MY23 - M4 comp $78,600

G87 base ?
G87 comp ?

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by M Fifty

Online configurators are great. You can build pretty much any spec you want (unless it's a Mercedes - in which case you need a trained and experienced member of staff to figure out what all the permutations are...), and hence come up with pretty much any price.

For example, I once had a go with the Range Rover Evoque Configurator and came up with a spec that was available to order and cost 3 times the basic price...

you should see Porsche's configurator. It will make your head spin.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by pkalhan

You should see Porsche's configurator. It will make your head spin.

So true…

I need a stiff drink just to begin building a Porsche

[M Fifty]

I've previously had fun building 'poverty-spec' Caymans...

[///MPhatic]

Hard to sell this car at $65k starting price when the M2C is a 2nd car with low miles for most, so there are plenty nearly new ones out there for a better price.

[DrJLag420]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

Hard to sell this car at $65k starting price when the M2C is a 2nd car with low miles for most, so there are plenty nearly new ones out there for a better price.

2021 M2C

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by DrJLag420

2021 M2C

Watch what happens when the new one comes out...

[chris719]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

Hard to sell this car at $65k starting price when the M2C is a 2nd car with low miles for most, so there are plenty nearly new ones out there for a better price.

It's going to be $64k base probably, I doubt one will be able to be purchased with common options like Exec equivalent etc. at less than $69k. The market has moved up in price and this car starts out much closer to the M3/M4 than the F87 did.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by M Fifty

I've previously had fun building 'poverty-spec' Caymans...

Me too!!

[Tag]

Originally Posted by pkalhan

you should see Porsche's configurator. It will make your head spin.

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

So true…

I need a stiff drink just to begin building a Porsche

I visit the Porsche website like once or twice a year and go through the process of building out a car on the configurator. Then I look at the price and start removing options. Then I realize it's bare bones and and it's still fairly expensive. Then after some pacing and having deep thoughts on how I can make this happen without having a guilt trip I find myself back on BMWs website. Rinse and repeat in 8~12mo.

[themk]

5-10% more then the exiting F87 each region is different. Also there will be more options for the G87 that can push it up way more then the F87. I think it will start about the same price as a fully loaded M240IX