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      11-19-2021, 04:19 PM   #67
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What LEC thought he was driving
Yeah . Something like that

Charlie was fined 200 Euro's today for speeding during free practice in the pit lane .
He was driving 1.6 km/h too fast ..

50 K from MAX for touching a cheating DRS wing
5 K from CryMilton for driving unsecured with a Brazilian Flag
200 Euro's from Charlie for speeding 1.6 km/h too fast

The FIA needs money man !

=> https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/99322...-practice.html
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This is the alleged score marks. It’s seems clear the bottom wing is not attached to the end plate. It’s probably reason hammy was disqualified.

At 300kph the bottom is flattening out some, mini drs. Clever, not sure how is matches up with the regulations that require wing elements to be regidly joined to their respective sections.
In other words then a bendy wing to all intents and purposes.
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Work on those Image capture skills M5Rick

Context for those that won't read the article. The "alleged scuff marks may point to the main wing element not being rigid and instead flexing up and down, although they could be something totally unrelated like emulsification caused by a dirty air flow."

I call B.S. on the emulsification theory!!!
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SirCryMilton today : "Man, I'm massively down on power" !!!

But he didn't said that he ran today with a "Old Crappy PU"...
I'm pretty sure that the Wolf was afraid that HAM's 'Rocket engine would blow during free practice
=> https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/99263...ne-in-fp1.html
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Yeah . Something like that

Charlie was fined 200 Euro's today for speeding during free practice in the pit lane .
He was driving 1.6 km/h too fast ..

50 K from MAX for touching a cheating DRS wing
5 K from CryMilton for driving unsecured with a Brazilian Flag
200 Euro's from Charlie for speeding 1.6 km too fast

The FIA needs money man !

=> https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/99322...-practice.html
I do like that sharp, narrow & fast pit entry! Looks cool

Never know, somebody might get a bit too brave and pile their car up coming in.
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      11-19-2021, 04:45 PM   #72
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I do like that sharp, narrow & fast pit entry! Looks cool

Never know, somebody might get a bit too brave and pile their car up coming in.
Yeah . Just like 44 managed it to do ...Actually twice !
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SirCryMilton today : "Man, I'm massively down on power" !!!

But he didn't said that he ran today with a "Old Crappy PU"...
I'm pretty sure that the Wolf was afraid that HAM's 'Rocket engine would blow during free practice
=> https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/99263...ne-in-fp1.html
Yes it figures and BOT had a much fresher engine turned up to maximum.
Ham was using a 'Beverley hillbillies' PU today and for sure it will be changed for the quali.

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Yes it figures and BOT had a much fresher engine turned up to maximum.
Ham was using a 'Beverley hillbillies' PU today and for sure it will be changed for the quali.

I'm watching a film now ''Zoltan,Hound of Dracula'' it's very similar to someone we know my friend..I won't leave any clues
Such a BS as usual ...

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Such a BS as usual ...

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[QUOTE=///M Power-Belgium;28272846]Such a BS as usual ...

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That's the spirit Chas! Of course the over excited journos were bugging all the drivers over this incident of little importance exemplified by Kimi when asked that there have been far worse blocks that were toned down indirectly referring to the Silverstone incident and others of which I can name more.
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[QUOTE=///M Power-Belgium;28272846]Such a BS as usual ...

*Dr.Marko has said that the turn 4 off has been blown out of all proportion by Wolf probably in an attempt to cover up to a certain extent the 12 bendy wing controversy.
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Only Max fanboys think the turn 4 incident at Brazil has been blown out of proportion. Too many people are focusing on the outcome rather than the cause of the incident. Had Lewis stayed committed to his line and overtaking Max, when he turned in he would have hit Max and likely spun off track. Max fans know this because that's EXACTLY what Max did at Silverstone, he refused to yield and turned in on Lewis. But since Max hit the wall, they deem the incident serious; however, Lewis avoided contact at Brazil so it's been deemed perfectly legal for Max to dive up the inside and run him off track.

That's a flawed way of looking at things because that means we should all be able to run red lights and as long as all the other drivers at the intersection take evasive action.
We can't be punished for breaking the law because there was no contact and nobody got injured!? Only if we collide with someone while we run a red light should we face any punishment.
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Only Max fanboys think the turn 4 incident at Brazil has been blown out of proportion. Too many people are focusing on the outcome rather than the cause of the incident. Had Lewis stayed committed to his line and overtaking Max, when he turned in he would have hit Max and likely spun off track. Max fans know this because that's EXACTLY what Max did at Silverstone, he refused to yield and turned in on Lewis. But since Max hit the wall, they deem the incident serious; however, Lewis avoided contact at Brazil so it's been deemed perfectly legal for Max to dive up the inside and run him off track.

That's a flawed way of looking at things because that means we should all be able to run red lights and as long as all the other drivers at the intersection take evasive action.
We can't be punished for breaking the law because there was no contact and nobody got injured!? Only if we collide with someone while we run a red light should we face any punishment.
You're comparing what happened on a race track with what may on a public road, clearly your comment is laughable at best and the FIA's Action for Road Safety campaign has a different meaning to you.
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You're comparing what happened on a race track with what may on a public road, clearly your comment is laughable at best and the FIA's Action for Road Safety campaign has a different meaning to you.
Breaking rules is breaking rules. I actually wouldn't have much of a problem with Max's defense if he could've stayed within the confines of the track, but since he completely disregarded track limits in order to run Lewis off track and prevent the overtake... that's as serious as it gets. You would be furious if someone did the same to Max and F1 would become as deadly or deadlier than it used to be if all drivers on the track adopted that kind of defense.
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Breaking rules is breaking rules. I actually wouldn't have much of a problem with Max's defense if he could've stayed within the confines of the track, but since he completely disregarded track limits in order to run Lewis off track and prevent the overtake... that's as serious as it gets. You would be furious if someone did the same to Max and F1 would become as deadly or deadlier than it used to be if all drivers on the track adopted that kind of defense.
Ham was on the outside in the danger zone and Max couldn't make the bend defending so it wasn't the best place for him to overtake and he could easily have got him with the rocket engine on the straight even without DRS.
Ham brought all this upon himself wasting everyone's time and his boss's time.
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Ham was on the outside in the danger zone and Max couldn't make the bend defending so it wasn't the best place for him to overtake and he could easily have got him with the rocket engine on the straight even without DRS.
Ham brought all this upon himself wasting everyone's time and his boss's time.
Ironic you would use that to attempt to justify what happened at Brazil, but not at Silverstone.

There was nothing wrong with Ham's positioning as he was on the optimal racing line to make the corner. I believe the only reason why Ham didn't block the inside line was because he had a strong feeling that Max wasn't going to yield and would hit him.

I'd like to say what's done is done, but it will be interesting to see what happens next because I do believe other drivers now feel like they should be able to defend by running a competitor wide and clear off track if that's what it takes to keep their position.
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Ironic you would use that to attempt to justify what happened at Brazil, but not at Silverstone.

There was nothing wrong with Ham's positioning as he was on the optimal racing line to make the corner. I believe the only reason why Ham didn't block the inside line was because he had a strong feeling that Max wasn't going to yield and would hit him.

I'd like to say what's done is done, but it will be interesting to see what happens next because I do believe other drivers now feel like they should be able to defend by running a competitor wide and clear off track if that's what it takes to keep their position.
No two incidents are the exactly the same and I would think the stewards, some of which are ex-F1 drivers, will judge any incidents on merit.
In the case of turn 4 Max's tyres were overheated from defending causing him to go further in and braking later to defend and it was judged on this.
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Ham was on the outside in the danger zone and Max couldn't make the bend defending so it wasn't the best place for him to overtake and he could easily have got him with the rocket engine on the straight even without DRS.
Ham brought all this upon himself wasting everyone's time and his boss's time.
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This for sure ! You completely nailed it !

HAM was easely 30 km/h faster on the straight . So why he didn't attempted there ?

HAM knew that MAX's tyres were overheated at that moment in turn 4 ..
By this he was thinking ...'THIS is my moment .

The world witnessed that HAM was/is pushed by a Rocketship in Warp-Speed !!!
MAX had *zero (0) chance by the Mercedes power and topspeed advantage .
If HAM and Mercedes takes a PU replacement in every of the 3 remaining races .
MAX has again ZERO chance !
But ...Of course , it's always a 5 P grid penalty . That Isn't a big deal with a fresh new Rocket Engine .

So why not Mercedes ?

The only reason why is the position on the gridstart and the 'RISK of OVERTAKING in the traffic ....
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This for sure ! You completely nailed it !

HAM was easely 30 km/h faster on the straight . So why he didn't attempted there ?

HAM knew that MAX's tyres were overheated at that moment in turn 4 ..
By this he was thinking ...'THIS is my moment .

The world witnessed that HAM was/is pushed by a Rocketship in Warp-Speed !!!
MAX had *zero (0) chance by the Mercedes power and topspeed advantage .
If HAM and Mercedes takes a PU replacement in every of the remaining 3 races .
MAX has again ZERO chance !
But ...Of course , it's always a 5 P grid penalty . That Isn't a big deal with a fresh new Rocket Engine .

So why not Mercedes ?

The only reason why is the position on the gridstart and the 'RISK of OVERTAKING in the traffic ....
Of course, so I'm miffed why he tried to overtake there in Brazil T4,it's as if he wanted to not to overtake on the straight to hide, in a way, the comparison of the speed difference with Max bringing more attention to what's under the 12's skin exactly.
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