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      06-27-2022, 12:25 AM   #67
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Incorrect. There is absolutely a difference in labor/skill from Fremont to Spartanburg or Fremont to the Shanghai built cars. China built Tesla’s are numerically better statistically with paint/body defects then US built cars.
Yeah, because Tesla is such a cluster that their processes aren't even consistent from location to location.
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Incorrect. There is absolutely a difference in labor/skill from Fremont to Spartanburg or Fremont to the Shanghai built cars. China built Tesla’s are numerically better statistically with paint/body defects then US built cars.
You know I just learnt that from a Tesla owning friend last week. He just sold his US built model and bought a Chinese model as they are known to be much better quality. Fascinating.
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I’m not certain from reading it but are you saying you prefer the 981 read more than the 718. 981 was and still is stunning but it looks older and less tight compared to a 718 parked next to it… especially in GT4 form.
That would be the subjective nature of design
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Just had a chance to read this entire thread and can't help but notice that it started off as a G87 discussion which quickly turned into a where it's built thread. I find it fascinating that instead of talking about the M2's successor this is what people are focusing on. Can't help but think if nobody knew it was being built in Mexico would anyone even know.

G87 will have a detuned S58 with 455hp and yes, an M2c is in the works. BMW has said they have no plans to offer xDrive on the M2. That said, they've been known to change their minds, but even if they do it'll be a few years before you see one. The official reveal is this October for the base M2, production starts end of December and it'll hit showrooms in April. M2c is a ways off, but rest assured it's coming. Regarding options, it'll basically get everything the G80/2 have with exception of CCB. Unlike the G80/2 CF roof will be an option due to cost, but adaptive dampers will be standard.
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So even white interior in an m2? That would be optimal.
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Incorrect. There is absolutely a difference in labor/skill from Fremont to Spartanburg or Fremont to the Shanghai built cars. China built Tesla’s are numerically better statistically with paint/body defects then US built cars.
Yeah, because Tesla is such a cluster that their processes aren't even consistent from location to location.
Or they've been building cars on a manufacturing line for 10 years and are using their process improvements to make better assembly lines in other locations. Kind of the point of continuous improvement and gigafactory production intentions…. Food for thought.
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I’m not certain from reading it but are you saying you prefer the 981 read more than the 718. 981 was and still is stunning but it looks older and less tight compared to a 718 parked next to it… especially in GT4 form.
That would be the subjective nature of design
Yes, indeed!
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When do you guys think the CS will be available? 4 years from now?
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I see the shitty looking gloss “carbon fibre” in the interior

I hope they offer the Matt as well!
Hmmm, how likely do you think it is that BMW will offer TWO type of interior CF? I'm going to say...they wont
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Hmmm, how likely do you think it is that BMW will offer TWO type of interior CF? I'm going to say...they wont
Hmm. Not so sure. Just seen the latest M3 Touring MP parts.
The interior CF dash trim looks exposed (open pore), though not all the parts are. The seat backs are still lacquered.

The F87 came with dry exposed carbon and the F87 CS brought in lacquered CF as per the M3/M4.

Wouldn't rule it out for G87 TBH.
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Hmmm, how likely do you think it is that BMW will offer TWO type of interior CF? I'm going to say...they wont
Hmm. Not so sure. Just seen the latest M3 Touring MP parts.
The interior CF dash trim looks exposed (open pore), though not all the parts are. The seat backs are still lacquered.

The F87 came with dry exposed carbon and the F87 CS brought in lacquered CF as per the M3/M4.

Wouldn't rule it out for G87 TBH.
Aha. Yes so M Performance Parts.

Great if you fancy splashing out more for some Matt CF. My thought was more around the stock CF

M8 shiny CF
M5 shiny CF
M3/4/Convertible Shiny CF

Maybe they will go Matt for a change on the M2. I had this o. My OG and quite liked it.
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Hmmm, how likely do you think it is that BMW will offer TWO type of interior CF? I'm going to say...they wont
Hmm. Not so sure. Just seen the latest M3 Touring MP parts.
The interior CF dash trim looks exposed (open pore), though not all the parts are. The seat backs are still lacquered.

The F87 came with dry exposed carbon and the F87 CS brought in lacquered CF as per the M3/M4.

Wouldn't rule it out for G87 TBH.
Aha. Yes so M Performance Parts.

Great if you fancy splashing out more for some Matt CF. My thought was more around the stock CF

M8 shiny CF
M5 shiny CF
M3/4/Convertible Shiny CF

Maybe they will go Matt for a change on the M2. I had this o. My OG and quite liked it.
Yeah in my 2018 LCI M2 as well.

I quite liked it but still prefer the gloss finish.
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