[M Division]

They've just released a manual 560hp CSL 3.0 S58 so this bollocks about the manual not being able to support the comp horsepower has finally been put to bed...

[curtdragon]

Originally Posted by M Division

They've just released a manual 560hp CSL 3.0 S58 so this bollocks about the manual not being able to support the comp horsepower has finally been put to bed...

No it hasn’t. You have no idea what transmission is in that car.

No one knows the limit because no one is really pushing it. The clutch will slip but who knows the rpm or torque limit? I’ve yet to find any real numbers on that.

Also everyone saying well this $750000 car has it really isn’t looking at this correctly. Who buys that car and drives it hard? At all? Once or twice? Probably zero. Or maybe 1 of 50. So honestly we’re not going to know what that transmission can handle. But that doesn’t matter until we know that’s it’s the same exact transmission minus the clutch.

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by blinkme323

That model was discontinued. I think the take volume was ridiculously low.

It isn't discontinued. I sold one earlier this year. It is on BMWs build your own site for 2023, and I have multiple builds in my order bank.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by Albator_IIII

I would guess the limits are a bit higher. You don't want it that close to normal operating range. This has been engineered by Germans. They typically love to over-engineer stuff.

That's certainly a possibility, but electronically limiting torque to such a specific figure is rather odd. Maybe 420-450lbft ant most.

Other manufacturers have routinely pushed very close to specific numbers with transmissions - including maximum RPM with the venerable 7spd DCT used by Porsche and Ferrari. Chevy has a history of coming very close to rated torque figures for the 6spd Magnum.

I wonder if it's the half-shafts or diff?

[blue135]

406 lb ft may be too specific or not - did not do the math but what is that value in nm?

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by blue135

406 lb ft may be too specific or not - did not do the math but what is that value in nm?

550Nm or 405.6047 lbft

[T_U_D]

Saw this on Instagram regarding the new 3.0 CSL. Truth…

[curtdragon]

Lol someone put it side by side and yeah it’s an M4 with a body kit, manual transmission and a tune

[ElHeffe]

I wish the press wouldn't even cover anything that's very limited. If the unobtainable for even most of their high end customers, then don't even cover it. That kind of stuff has rarely excited me.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by ElHeffe

I wish the press wouldn't even cover anything that's very limited. If the unobtainable for even most of their high end customers, then don't even cover it. That kind of stuff has rarely excited me.

Agreed. Plus the new 3.0 CSL is not going to be sold in the U.S. so why care?

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by curtdragon

Lol someone put it side by side and yeah it's an M4 with a body kit, manual transmission and a tune

Except it's not.

[curtdragon]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Except it's not.

Except it is haha. Instead of normal panels they used fiberglass and carbon fiber infused plastic

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by curtdragon

Except it is haha. Instead of normal panels they used fiberglass and carbon fiber infused plastic

The internal chassis code for the new 3.0 CSL is the same as the M4 as well, G82.

G82 3.0 CSL BMW Press Release: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...he-bmw-3-0-csl

[Albator_IIII]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

The internal chassis code for the new 3.0 CSL is the same as the M4 as well, G82.

So this like the E46 M3 GTR except it is not produced to meet racing series road car quotas.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by Albator_IIII

So this like the E46 M3 GTR except it is not produced to meet racing series road car quotas.

The M3 GTR was also a million times cooler in my opinion. I love racing specials.