[Basketcase]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

I don't know about the manual part, but can imagine it'll easily be around the $120k mark.

The difference between the M2CS and M2CSL is only a measly L; nothing more, and a ducktail points to the L.

I completely agree on price.

If BMW DOESN'T make an M2 CSL before the EOP, they missed the mark for opportunities

[clydefrog]

Originally Posted by Rate-of-Twist

This is the hardest part when spec'ing a G87... I really wanted a "last of it's kind car" ie, a car that handles, a car with a bunch of horsepower, and a car with a manual transmission. The Camaro is gone (and was ugly and a Chevy) The Corvette is a dual clutch and $85k once you start to spec it out, the only Mustang worth a damn is the Dark Horse and is $70k spec'd right (no way with Ford's current build quality) The Cayman is gone and is a $90k plus car in the US anyway...

A M2 with a 6MT is "THE" car, but I haven't heard one person even remotely approve of the manual in the car. Pretty frustrating given I have to throw down the cash on a gamble and hope I picked right once its shows up and I have to do paperwork

I think it depends on where you're coming from and what your intentions are.

Coming from an old Subaru BRZ the manual in the M2 is excellent and I'm really enjoying it. It's not the fastest compared to the auto but I don't really care about 2/10ths of a second.

I don't think you'll be disappointed in the manual unless you're coming from something really excellent like an S2000 or a Porsche.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by Basketcase

I completely agree on price.

If BMW DOESN'T make an M2 CSL before the EOP, they missed the mark for opportunities

If they produced an M2 CSL with similar spec to the M4 CSL, that would mean a more than 100% price increase over the base M2 and likely a very limited number of people who would buy it. So with the luxury tax on cars over CAD$100K, it is likely to be around CAD$200K on the road (M4 CSL was about CAD$220K on the road in BC and Ontario after a few option and sales tax).

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by aerobod

If they produced an M2 MSL with similar spec to the M4 CSL, that would mean a more than 100% price increase over the base M2 and likely a very limited number of people who would buy it. So with the luxury tax on cars over CAD$100K, it is likely to be around CAD$200K on the road (M4 CSL was about CAD$220K on the road in BC and Ontario after a few option and sales tax).

What?!? What a F'ing mess. How does that work? Is that based on the total MSRP? So let's say you have a car with a base price of $96K and with options it's either $99K or $101K, are you saying the $101K car is now a $150K or so? Because that is insane.

[Albator_IIII]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

What?!? What a F'ing mess. How does that work? Is that based on the total MSRP? So let's say you have a car with a base price of $96K and with options it's either $99K or $101K, are you saying the $101K car is now a $150K or so? Because that is insane.

Luxury tax in Canada is 20% of the value over 100k (for cars). You pay regular applicable taxes on the whole amount (depending on the province 5% to 15%) then an extra 20% for the number above 100k.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

What?!? What a F'ing mess. How does that work? Is that based on the total MSRP? So let's say you have a car with a base price of $96K and with options it's either $99K or $101K, are you saying the $101K car is now a $150K or so? Because that is insane.

As Albator_IIII said the luxury tax is 20% of the value above $100,000 or 10% or the total price, whichever is the lesser.

The price of a prospective M2 CSL being around CAD$200K would be something like:

Base price $150K
Options and other non-tax add-ons $15K
Luxury Tax $13K
Sales Tax (ON 13% HST) $23K

Total price $201K

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

What?!? What a F'ing mess. How does that work? Is that based on the total MSRP? So let's say you have a car with a base price of $96K and with options it's either $99K or $101K, are you saying the $101K car is now a $150K or so? Because that is insane.

Come to Australia mate

We pay 33% luxury car tax for cars after the first $76k - and that applies to incidentals such as dealer delivery charges as well 😡

The M4CSL in Australia cost $339k on the road (AUD$1 = USD$0.70)

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Come to Australia mate

The M4CSL in Australia cost $339k on the road (AUD$1 = USD$0.70)

Dude, between the spiders the size or livestock, the 30 hour flight, and now the quarter million dollar M4s, I'm making a judgement call, there's no way.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

Dude, between the spiders the size or livestock, the 30 hour flight, and now the quarter million dollar M4s, I'm making a judgement call, there's no way.

Don't be so harsh brother; the koalas are nice

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Don't be so harsh brother; the koalas are nice

If this is what constitutes as cute, I'm staying in the good old US of A.
Side note, I actually would love to visit, one of my buddies came from there in high school and I've always wanted to check it out.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

If this is what constitutes as cute, I'm staying in the good old US of A.
Side note, I actually would love to visit, one of my buddies came from there in high school and I've always wanted to check it out.

Oh, that's a drop bear, koalas are cuter 🤪

[fhr_6189]

I thought moving from E92 M3 to F8X series was meh, this G87 series is horrendous. Good thing I got the M2CS.

The G87 just so heavy, big long screen (I thought my Tesla was quirky with the screen however BMW have full on TV inside the car lol) and the car just looks like unfinished. No wonder price are dropping, I rather get the M3 with beaver teeth vs the G87 lol.

[Rate-of-Twist]

Originally Posted by fhr_6189

I thought moving from E92 M3 to F8X series was meh, this G87 series is horrendous. Good thing I got the M2CS.

The G87 just so heavy, big long screen (I thought my Tesla was quirky with the screen however BMW have full on TV inside the car lol) and the car just looks like unfinished. No wonder price are dropping, I rather get the M3 with beaver teeth vs the G87 lol.

Good for you?

Seems weird to me to hang out in a place where something you don’t have any interest in is being discussed.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Rate-of-Twist

Good for you?

Seems weird to me to hang out in a place where something you don’t have any interest in is being discussed.

Strictly speaking, he does have a CS - in other words, given "nobody" on the planet has a G87CS, I don't see how he would be in the wrong by commenting here

[Rate-of-Twist]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Strictly speaking, he does have a CS - in other words, given "nobody" on the planet has a G87CS, I don't see how he would be in the wrong by commenting here

100% not “wrong” to comment anywhere they like. I’m not a mod or the owner of the site, not my job to determine.

Just seems odd to me. If you strongly dislike the G87 why bother posting when there is specific forums for F87 and G80 /G82.

Regardless, I’m now derailing a thread and everyone is free to post as they like so no need to waste anymore space on this.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Rate-of-Twist

100% not “wrong” to comment anywhere they like. I’m not a mod or the owner of the site, not my job to determine.

Just seems odd to me. If you strongly dislike the G87 why bother posting when there is specific forums for F87 and G80 /G82.

Regardless, I’m now derailing a thread and everyone is free to post as they like so no need to waste anymore space on this.

You Sir are my new hero; for the next 48 hours

The whole thing is about having fun and a good yarn

[Tag]

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by Tag

Welp, I think it sounds pretty quiet. I do like the trunk though so if it's not extremely overpriced, that may be an option.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

Welp, I think it sounds pretty quiet. I do like the trunk though so if it's not extremely overpriced, that may be an option.

Most likely because it's an EU spec car with OPF. US bound cars don't have that problem.

[Zatellia]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Strictly speaking, he does have a CS - in other words, given "nobody" on the planet has a G87CS, I don't see how he would be in the wrong by commenting here

I don't understand your comment, I am not saying that he cant make a comment anywhere he wants, but what does having a F87CS have to do with a G87 forum? Again, I don't see an issue with someone saying they don't like the G87 or any other car for that matter or am I just missing the sarcasm?

[ronin13013]

He used to throw jabs when the haters were more prevalent. Guess he just wanted to remind us how he feels.

Originally Posted by Zatellia

I don't understand your comment, I am not saying that he cant make a comment anywhere he wants, but what does having a F87CS have to do with a G87 forum? Again, I don't see an issue with someone saying they don't like the G87 or any other car for that matter or am I just missing the sarcasm?

[Tag]

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