[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

It isn't. The only way to get the seats is with the Carbon Package for $9900. You can spec the carbon roof ($2600), Carbon Interior ($800), and M Driver's Package ($2500) but not the actual seats.
This is their way of getting an extra few grand out of you as the actual cost of the M Driver's Package is $1500, plus if you're a CCA member, you're getting an extra 15% off of that so that really adds insult to injury.
Regardless, the seats are worth it no matter how you cut it.

Definitely looking that way to me!

[Searay55555]

Originally Posted by yuzu

I mean we all know BMW publishes "BHP" numbers that are actually just WHP lol. I'm not going around telling people that my car has 550 hp

I might be telling them, F around and find out. Let’s go! 🤣😂🤣

[TheLegend]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Definitely looking that way to me!

I think you should sit in buckets there before you make a expensive decision like that. Many reviewers have said it can be uncomfortable especially with a manual. Also just from my personal experience with bucket seats in my GT4 it is a huge pain in the ass to get in out of. Something I absolutely would want in a car like the GT4 and it makes the interior feel so much more special but not in something I would daily drive.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by TheLegend

I think you should sit in buckets there before you make a expensive decision like that. Many reviewers have said it can be uncomfortable especially with a manual. Also just from my personal experience with bucket seats in my GT4 it is a huge pain in the ass to get in out of. Something I absolutely would want in a car like the GT4 and it makes the interior feel so much more special but not in something I would daily drive.

That's why I'm looking for actual owner's experience, especially on longer drives, like 3-6 hours road trip sort of longer drives. Sitting in the dealership won't help me answer that.

I can see why the buckets in the GT4 is a huge pain, having that lower roof line of the GT4 doesn't help. It's why I never ordered aftermarket bucket on my S2000. Though, I don't see that aspect would be an issue with the M2, because that's an entry/exit of a "normal" car. No low and sloping roof line to deal with.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Ok, so.... haha, who's done a road trip in them buckets?

Right after purchase of my M2 drove 3 hours home in it. Really I was comfortable while I was still at the dealer. Just adjusted the seat and then the mirrors and saved the settings.

Oh, the car came with M Sports seats. Heated. With blue stitching.

My sister was with me and no one is more fussy about seat comfort than her. She did the same thing and then we drove to a local restaurant for a bite to eat then after headed home.

No stops on way. I was very comfortable and not one peep out of my sister. In fact she slept a good part of the way to her house.

Think the seats are comfortable but of course some adjustment might be required.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by RockCrusher

Right after purchase of my M2 drove 3 hours home in it. Really I was comfortable while I was still at the dealer. Just adjusted the seat and then the mirrors and saved the settings.

Oh, the car came with M Sports seats. Heated. With blue stitching.

My sister was with me and no one is more fussy about seat comfort than her. She did the same thing and then we drove to a local restaurant for a bite to eat then after headed home.

No stops on way. I was very comfortable and not one peep out of my sister. In fact she slept a good part of the way to her house.

Think the seats are comfortable but of course some adjustment might be required.

Are those the same carbon buckets from the carbon package? (sorry, i'm not very familiar with BMW's build sheet)

Thanks

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Are those the same carbon buckets from the carbon package? (sorry, i'm not very familiar with BMW's build sheet)

Thanks

No the seats are not carbon seats. They are M Sports seats.

Yes you asked specifically about the carbon seats. My bad I don't have any experience with them.

I searched BMW M2 carbon bucket seats and found some posts -- some from this forum -- offering they are not worth the cost and they are not comfortable.

There is also some word the seats will not be offered/available in 2024.

[GT3M2]

1. I was not a huge fan of the exterior until I saw it in person.

First track day I went to had about 10-15 people walk by and just stare at it, all of them said something along the lines of " wow this car looks so good in person"

2. Reliability : this engine is shared amongst the x3m/x4m and the m3/4 has been out for years, it's dead nuts reliable as far as we know to this point.

3/4. Absolutely daily drivable, my only complaint is that getting in/out of the carbon buckets is work, but comapred to a race seat it's not bad at all, and the levels of support are fantastic. I would 100% not buy this car wtihout the buckets. They make the car and the interior feel special.

5. The weight thing really doesn't ever come into the equation at all the car hides it amazingly well, think about how reviewers came to grapple with the GT-R when it first came out, they all had the same takeaway, it is heavier than it should be but how it moves, brakes, changes direction is all better than most supercars, even those 6-800 lbs lighter.

6. Doesn't have the mechanical magic an s2k does, but if you'lre looking for that you won't find that outside of a lotus or a brz or something considerably slower and less well rounded. Automatic gearboxes, electric power steering, although 20 years ago major hurdles, now are part of the formula for modern fast cars.

-GT3M2

[ourlee]

But let's focus on the car of this forums, G87 M2 for now

sigh

[Zheeeem]

I have a G87 on order. It will be my 8th bimmer. My current is a 2018 M2. I have some experience, and share some of the same concerns.

Styling wise, I don't think the G87 looks as nice as the F87. But I realize that, in my case, part of that is because I really, really like the looks of the F87. But, there was not comparable price/performance car whose looks I liked better. Next on my list would have been a not-base Porsche 718 or 911. Well over $100K.

Reliability. My personal experience is that bimmers are very reliable. In the nearly 20 years and 7 different cars, I have had exactly one problem. The fuel pump died. (M235i) I pulled off the road, called BMW, they sent a flatbed. When the dealer said it would take a couple days to get the part, BMW provided a rental car. Since I had to go on a trip about 300 miles away, BMW then flatbedded the car to me where I was visiting. Incredible service above and beyond.

Daily driving. My F87 has been a great daily driver. Heck. All of my bimmers have been great daily drivers. I expect the G87 will be as well.

Can't speak to the seats.

Weight, feel and emotion. My first bimmer was a 2005 325i. I loved that car because it was small and nimble and fun to drive. It was relatively light and underpowered. But fun. But BMW bloats its cars. They all get bigger and heavier. The G87 is slightly bigger than the F87. The 3/4 series is too big for me, and has been for 15 years. I just hate driving a big car. But, as far as weight goes, I find that the extra HP more than compensates. My F87 is the most fun bimmer I've owned (including a 2011 V8 M3). I expect that with >100 extra HP and not so much extra weight and size, the G87 will be at least as much fun. I don't expect it will feel nimble like my old 325i. But I do expect it to feel powerful and precise and under control. Like my F87, but more. FWIW, I think the "dead steering" complaint is way overdone.

I'm happy with BMW's iDrive.

[xtougher]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

Would be nice if I had that same experience near me, but I'm not so lucky. 3 local dealers, 2 of which owned by the same group. Not good experiences at either from a service standpoint. The 3rd, where we bought the X3, we almost walked on it because they just kept jerking around after I had already confirmed everything via email & phone. Then they were very patronizing to my wife while she was there.

I have a 2nd residence with 2 dealers in proximity. One is a Hendricks-owned dealership and they add a $12-1,500 "dealership pkg" to every new vehicle so I won't use them out of principle. I've purchased accessories from the other one & their parts dept personnel were really nice, so I'll give them a shot if I need service when the car is down here.

Also curious, as I live in one of your two locations, and I've only really dealt with 1 of the local dealerships.

There are 2 "local" dealerships to me, and I actually ordered my M2 from one that is out of town, but the same driving time to get to as the 2nd dealership in town.

That was more for availability.

I guess my question is more about service experience in my loan dealership options as opposed to sales.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Hi all, thank you all for your replies so far. I've been sick and that's how I spent my Christmas and NYE. Regardless... happy new year!

I appreciate all of your insights, they've been really helpful. And I am glad that I am doing this sort of research this early. I know people are going to say "he's all talk and no action", and... yeah you're right. I am sure my current daily will keep going for at least another 2 years. As much of an emotional purchase this will be, it'll also be quite expensive (for me). So yes, I will be taking my sweet time.

I really like hearing your experiences in the light of my questions/concerns. This car is really looking like the do-it-all car for me IF I wanted to.

I also heard a rumor that in 2024 or 2025, the M2 will get additional color choices? If so, I REALLY hope that's the case. Because I heard purple and yellow will be part of the option, and I personally think the current colors for the car is very... meeeeh.

Also, I have to come to terms with the S2000 comparison. It's just not valid here as I come to realize. Different car, different era, and it's why I have it as a 2nd weekend car. And the whole weight thing, yes, it is heavy. But I've looking into other cars and there's no getting away from the weight of modern day cars. So from this point on, I'm not going to dwell on the weight of the G87 M2.

Thank you all, please keep sharing your experiences!

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Update on my own situation... my daily Mazdaspeed 3 will be entering its end of life phase.

My mechanic discovered widespread rust on the underside of the car. The car has spent at least half of its life in Lake Tahoe since 2009 during the snowboarding season.

I figured I'd have 1 - 2 years left with the car and then, I'll be in the market for a new car.

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Didn't ask you two specifically to answer nor did you have to read this.

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

That's your own damn time that you wasted.
And if that's your attitude, I'm glad my thread wasted your time.

Keep it up.

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

The good thing is, don't need your permission, invitation nor care if you like my post or not.

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

And you don't have the brain. Walk away boy. Nobody specifically asked you to talk here and you're as helpful as a 3rd grader so far.

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Same here, you can walk away too boy. Or you can keep being as helpful as that other 3rd grader.

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

More so than you, otherwise, why else would you take the time to come here and be a 3rd grader? Haha

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

lol you think I have to like everything you post? Nope. Wake up dumbass. I didn't ask you, but feel free to run your loud mouth. I know you need to be heard since there's no one else to listen to you.

Keep it up.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by iifymbro

It certainly did! Dude really needed to exercise his internet fingers... haha

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Can I ask a stupid question? As the title of this thread suggests, I haven't purchased a new car in many many years, let alone a specialty car.

Please explain to me how allocation works. Feel free to explain it to me as if I've never heard this term used in an automotive sense. Especially if I am planning a purchase 1-2 years from now.

Or, if there's already a existing thread for this info, please direct me there.

Thank you!

[akumachu]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Can I ask a stupid question? As the title of this thread suggests, I haven't purchased a new car in many many years, let alone a specialty car.

Please explain to me how allocation works. Feel free to explain it to me as if I've never heard this term used in an automotive sense. Especially if I am planning a purchase 1-2 years from now.

Or, if there's already a existing thread for this info, please direct me there.

Thank you!

you probably don't need to worry much about allocation in a couple years.
Basically that certain type of cars are sort of "made to order" or in high demand.
you don't just get to buy them off the lot easily unless someone didn't take delivery.
particular these cars are as mass produced so each dealer has certain amount of allocation that they could put in order for, regardless for a customer specific order or the dealer just getting one.

for GT3 RS, because the demand is so high and the supply doesn't meet, so the allocation itself worth hundred of thousand of dollar because the msrp is much lower than the market price.

M2 isn't in the same situation so you just need to "get in line".
different dealership has different rules or requiment for when or how much deposited you need to put down. some might require deposit for just being in line, some might require deposit only when the order is being processed.

that sort of the basic of it.

For mine, I got in like and they asked to put down $2500 to be in line but they really didn't quite force my hand. I also just wanted to put as much as I could on my credit card for some points lol

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Can I ask a stupid question? As the title of this thread suggests, I haven't purchased a new car in many many years, let alone a specialty car.

Please explain to me how allocation works. Feel free to explain it to me as if I've never heard this term used in an automotive sense. Especially if I am planning a purchase 1-2 years from now.

Or, if there's already a existing thread for this info, please direct me there.

Thank you!

The gist of it is, you can't just walk into any dealer at any time and say I want to order this vehicle. BMW lets each dealership know when & what it can order for customers. It can be model dependent or sometimes even option dependent. I don't know how BMW's allocation system works but I'm fairly familiar with GM's on speciality vehicles.

For example, GM distributes a certain number of Corvette allocations each "cycle" generally monthly. These are not distributed equally among dealers. A dealer in Wyoming who sells one Corvette every 5 years would probably not receive an allocation, whereas a dealer in Maryland who sells 300 Corvettes per year may receive quite a few. Then it breaks down even further. The dealership may get 4 Stingray allocations and only 1 Z06 allocation. And those allocations may be specific to equipment group depending on what parts the factory has on hand at the time. Many people who want a specific configuration may be passed over several times because their dealer doesn't have an allocation to order that specific configuration. It can be pretty frustrating.

I imagine BMW's process is similar.

[Resoelg]

Hey. New owner of Z blue '24 G87 MT. Came out of a heavily modified '17 f22 m240i MT (I wanted it to be an M2). Made it my own and thought I would keep that one for a while.

I was in similar situation as OP. Suspension work/refresh.,blown strut, control arms, add coilovers with EDC....$$$$$.

I dispised the look of the G87 when it came, I said never. It is uncanny how viewing photos vs being around the G87 can change ones mind...at least for me. Dealer gave me a decent deal on trade, 5k off MSRP so that all helped too.
Seeing the F22 (apples and oranges I know) next to G87 made me realize how much liked the G87 even more, EVEN from behind. No body kits needed for my taste. Maybe a few CF exterior bits.
Rides great (after I removed transit blocks from the rear suspension &#128548. Definate daily driver and aggressive as hell when you want (haven't even passed 1200 mile break in yet).
Gear box and 3rd pedal work great together. Steering feel is standard all BMWs now. NP for me. Can't comment on CF seats. I've owned many BMWs. Some had more problems than others but overall they are solid vehicles. I have had brand loyalty for 30+ years and am very particular about my vehicles.
Thought I might have some remorse or angst about my choice....ZERO.... Distant memory. Smile every day I see in in my garage. Grinning when driving.
Just need the snow and salt to disappear so I can put miles on it.
My 2 cents, don't hesitate on purchasing the G87 if you have the means. No Regrets! NONE.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by Resoelg

Hey. New owner of Z blue '24 G87 MT. Came out of a heavily modified '17 f22 m240i MT (I wanted it to be an M2). Made it my own and thought I would keep that one for a while.

I was in similar situation as OP. Suspension work/refresh.,blown strut, control arms, add coilovers with EDC....$$$$$.

I dispised the look of the G87 when it came, I said never. It is uncanny how viewing photos vs being around the G87 can change ones mind...at least for me. Dealer gave me a decent deal on trade, 5k off MSRP so that all helped too.
Seeing the F22 (apples and oranges I know) next to G87 made me realize how much liked the G87 even more, EVEN from behind. No body kits needed for my taste. Maybe a few CF exterior bits.
Rides great (after I removed transit blocks from the rear suspension &#128548. Definate daily driver and aggressive as hell when you want (haven't even passed 1200 mile break in yet).
Gear box and 3rd pedal work great together. Steering feel is standard all BMWs now. NP for me. Can't comment on CF seats. I've owned many BMWs. Some had more problems than others but overall they are solid vehicles. I have had brand loyalty for 30+ years and am very particular about my vehicles.
Thought I might have some remorse or angst about my choice....ZERO.... Distant memory. Smile every day I see in in my garage. Grinning when driving.
Just need the snow and salt to disappear so I can put miles on it.
My 2 cents, don't hesitate on purchasing the G87 if you have the means. No Regrets! NONE.

Thank you for sharing your experience with the car! The G87 M2 is definitely the best "do-it-all" car for an enthusiast at the moment.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

akumachu JABCAT

Thanks for explaining the allocation system!

[Drowsy]

Having to drive a G87 with CB seats for 3 hours and 47 minutes is an interesting story. I personally have slight back issues because of my past sport. To get a better understanding of my scenario of being in CB seats. I am 5'7 and pretty slim with no issues of width size. When I say width size I'm not stating "fat" but more of people who are taller individuals, so there body frame would logically be bigger.

At the 1 hour mark of driving I was actually quite surprised of having no back pain because in 80% of the cars I have driven I experience the pain within that time frame. I would says maybe because I was able to adjust my hip position pretty often in the CB seats this was a plus for me. The seats are still without a doubt comfortable if we are talking squishy wise. However, one issue I encountered was the "mid" part of the seat where the back arc was pretty high for me which caused my chest to be pressed out more than usual. Yes... I know its very strange.... By the 2 hour of driving I still haven't encountered any main isuses such as; my legs being tired, back pain, or just simply uncomfortable. However, by the third hour I really began to feel the back pain. Honestly, I wouldn't be able to tell you if it was from either sitting for too long or the seat itself. I personally haven't made that far of a drive in the CB seats in awhile because I tend to commute 25-40 minutes a day.