[rdown1976]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

First, the same could said when cars replaced horses. Cars are cheating! (Also, see bicycles, which also preceded cars).


Second “Gas all the way”… Hope you don’t have or want kids.

(Oh, see you’re 16. You are the future. That’s even sadder).

I assume you do know that electric cars produce e a larger carbon footprint from build through life of car than a new gas powered car, but hey, politicians don’t lie.

[rdown1976]

Originally Posted by Macphisto

How about a 1,000 mile range instead?

Yep, this would be a game changer, especially if it could charge in 10 minutes. Then again China owns all this technology.

[M5ddox]

Originally Posted by heymarkv

Anyone else becoming desensitized to high powered EVs, or is it just me?

Well balanced cars >>> over powered straight line speed
(Unless you’re actually into drag racing)

Agreed, I like cars with actual character even if they are .5 sec slower.

#TeslaClowns

I really hope there is a massive typo in this article and that the new bmw EV will demolish a 0-60 of 2 seconds*.

3 seconds was so 2020.

[heymarkv]

Originally Posted by M3ddox

Agreed, I like cars with actual character even if they are .5 sec slower.

#TeslaClowns

I really hope there is a massive typo in this article and that the new bmw EV will demolish a 0-60 of 2 seconds*.

3 seconds was so 2020.

My stock power F82 M4 is plenty quick in my opinion and gets up to going to jail speeds in a relatively quick manner.

I’d rather see ultra fast EV charging in minutes instead of hours compared to them saying “it has XXXX hp and does 0-60 in 0.2 seconds.”

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by rdown1976

I assume you do know that electric cars produce e a larger carbon footprint from build through life of car than a new gas powered car, but hey, politicians don’t lie.

I don’t need to assume anything, but I know one thing about you.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ons-over-time/

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/el...eir-lifetimes/

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-...s-powered-cars

Also, as the grid continues to get greener and battery tech improves, the gap between the CO2 footprint of EVs and ICE vehicles will grow even larger, in even more favor of EVs relative to today.

But go on.

[NathObeaN]

Originally Posted by eljay

This hp race is getting crazy.
Why do we need 1300hp? 0-60 in 0.9secs? Ohhkay.

Build a 400hp lighweight EV that can beat a 1000hp Tesla. Then you'll have the performance engineering crown back.

True. 1300hp just tells me this car is going to be a fat pig 🙂.

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by Karamba

I see your point, although I wouldn’t call the i4 M50 slow…

As an owner of one, I'll challenge anyone to the old Cobra test. Reach to the dash and grab the $100 bill while I accelerate from a stop....

Slow in what class? Not compared to a TM3 Performance. That car is a one trick pony with a crappy suspension and interior with fit and finish no better than a $2 hot wheel. The hot wheel is probably better.

I guess the question is really academic. How fast do you want to lose your license. There are very few roads where you can use the performance of an i4 M50 and not lose your license.

After 500hp and close to 600 lb/ft of torque it's just a pissing contest.

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by heymarkv

Anyone else becoming desensitized to high powered EVs, or is it just me?

Well balanced cars >>> over powered straight line speed
(Unless you’re actually into drag racing)

Me
I'm m tired of one trick ponies.

People compare my M50 to a TM3 Performance and I just look at them very confused. My car has merino leather, adaptive lasers, HK sound, adaptive suspension, air springs in thé rear qnd can pull 1g cornering. And can still do 0-60 in 3.3.

A Lucid Sapphire is $200k and some.
A Plaid is a joke as it doesn't even come standard with braking that can stop the car without overheating.

[heymarkv]

Originally Posted by techwhiz1

Me
I'm m tired of one trick ponies.

People compare my M50 to a TM3 Performance and I just look at them very confused. My car has merino leather, adaptive lasers, HK sound, adaptive suspension, air springs in thé rear qnd can pull 1g cornering. And can still do 0-60 in 3.3.

A Lucid Sapphire is $200k and some.
A Plaid is a joke as it doesn't even come standard with braking that can stop the car without overheating.

Exactly, like there’s much more to cars than just power and insane 0-60 times. 😭

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by rdown1976

I assume you do know that electric cars produce e a larger carbon footprint from build through life of car than a new gas powered car, but hey, politicians don’t lie.

That's not exactly true. You don't get to parity u til you've driven 20,000 miles of so. But for the equivalent car you do see a smaller footprint for the EV.

The battery is the killer. BMW doesn't use rare earth metals in it's motors.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

I don’t need to assume anything, but I know one thing about you.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ons-over-time/

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/el...eir-lifetimes/

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-...s-powered-cars

Also, as the grid continues to get greener and battery tech improves, the gap between the CO2 footprint of EVs and ICE vehicles will grow even larger, in even more favor of EVs relative to today.

But go on.

Thant FactCheck article is great, thanks

[bholler]

Ok, I’m interested

[Laguna Seca Blue]

Theoretically there has to point at which accelerating too rapidly will cause blunt force trauma and send you to BMW heaven, correct?

[xmanpro]

FINALLY! I neeeeeeeeed electric M to replace my M8!

[rdown1976]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

I don’t need to assume anything, but I know one thing about you.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ons-over-time/

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/el...eir-lifetimes/

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-...s-powered-cars

Also, as the grid continues to get greener and battery tech improves, the gap between the CO2 footprint of EVs and ICE vehicles will grow even larger, in even more favor of EVs relative to today.

But go on.

SD013.pdfhttps://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/116940/documents/HMKP-118-GO00--SD013.p

Try again

[BSfmAZ]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

If the motors are oil and liquid cooled, they will be inboard of the wheels on axleshafts.

So now we r putting special Oil's in the ev's, I'm sure the coolent is somthing petroleum based also. Similar to the thousands of gal. of toxic petroleum product used in the failing windmills. So what exactly is the logic/reason behind a 1300 hp electric car?

Just please bring them to AZ for testing in the summer (110 today) not Deutschland in the winter!
V8’S forever!

[rdown1976]

Originally Posted by techwhiz1

That's not exactly true. You don't get to parity u til you've driven 20,000 miles of so. But for the equivalent car you do see a smaller footprint for the EV.

The battery is the killer. BMW doesn't use rare earth metals in it's motors.

The excavating for rare earth minerals, the heavier cars burn through tires quicker, it goes on and on. People buy EV’s thinking they are doing good, while they are destroying the earth even more.

[rdown1976]

https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/busine...20tire%20wear.

[Tejas1836]

800 volt system.
Think about that.

[blockhead25]

Poor eagle was hit and got stuck in the grill.

[blockhead25]

Originally Posted by rdown1976

https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/busine...20tire%20wear.

I highly recommend not trusting the NY Post sighting an op-ed in another publication that sights a 3 year old study by a firm to get your source on cars and air pollution.

Want me to link you to hundreds of other peer reviewed studies that say otherwise, just let me know.

[JustChris]

MEV HALO

Look forward to it