[M3Bahn]

Originally Posted by Blayne

If the shoe was on the other foot I would not judge someone by what there wearing. I would judge someone on how the conduct themselves toward me and the people around them. I would look if they were well kept...and not homeless looking...example...wear what you want, but make sure it fits properly and not grimy with holes n shit in other words clean. You would be surprised of how many people that actually have money and don't dress to impress. KNOW your watches and look at there wrist and truly one of the best ways to know a persons wealth.

I never wear a watch and was dressed casual and yet when I walked into a ferrari dealership I was immediately offered a test drive. I pulled up in an X5, I don't think that means much.
I've heard other people complain they have to put down a deposit to get a test drive at a ferrari dealer.
I think there are many other factors involved.

[M3Bahn]

Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

does that go out the door when in comes a hottie with big cans and an LV bag?

A sales manager told me that car salesmen are the laziest people on earth, so who knows?

[M3Bahn]

Originally Posted by darkcloud

You are depressing me over my last 2 cars purchases.

Why, got ripped?

[Arben72]

Originally Posted by Spool

random fact...chinese people and indians are the cheapest mother fuckers in the world...nobody at work wants to deal with them

My uncle used to work at a BMW dealer. He'd tell them that he'll give them a price they can't find here or anywhere else. They'd never catch so they would go from dealer to dealer to waste there time instead of wasting his.

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by driersheets

blayne = dark335i or shuarma. both of them act the same

I'm guessing JK

[BMWinNorthdakota]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

I'm guessing JK

I will be thoroughly surprised if so

[darkcloud]

Originally Posted by M3Bahn

Why, got ripped?

first was a lease and I would say not completely but a little. 2nd I felt it was a fair deal, paid close to invoice.

just sad to know you can never get a very good deal. not that I'm saying dealers should ever take a loss but they intentionally make it very difficult to do well and very easy to rip people off that dont know any better.

[Oregano123]

Originally Posted by express705

if you sold a car on ebay for the wrong price what would you do?

[Naptime]

I was a finance manager at a DFW Toyota dealer for a year back in '05. Loooong hours but you can make some serious money selling air. Everything the OP has stated is fact.

Indians are the worst to deal with. Completly irrational and look at you like you're crazy when you dont want to take a loss on a deal.

[e90fun]

+1 on Indian.

Also, Arabics are hard to work with as well, they always try to offer you money and I work in retail electronics...

[///MC]

Originally Posted by M3Bahn

A sales manager told me that car salesmen are the laziest people on earth, so who knows?

I am the Internet Director at a Ford, Lincoln, Mazda dealership and can attest to this being absolutely true. There is no UP system here so it is whoever gets to the customer first. Occasionally causes some bickering.

[Brey335i]

The dealership makes money off people who finance right? So why is it that I have found it much easier to negotiate when paying for the whole car right then and there?

Instant payment still preferred to earning more through financing?

[eaglesfan83]

Also would be interested in the best way to go about getting hired at a dealership? Is there anything good to know when first starting? Better to work in a larger city? Also wouldnt it be a huge benefit to be part of forums like these and give the best deals possible?

[Gregxi]

Originally Posted by Brey335i

The dealership makes money off people who finance right? So why is it that I have found it much easier to negotiate when paying for the whole car right then and there?

Instant payment still preferred to earning more through financing?

Normally if you can qualify for the top tier financing the dealer makes 0 points on the loan, sometimes it can cost them to buy the rate down.

Making money on the loans is getting harder and harder though, in years past when you could "buy" the loan for say 12% and "sell" it the customer for 18% you could make some serious money. Every quarter I would get a check from one of the finance companies I would send my customers to, It would show their balance, interest paid and my share of the pie.

[Augenbrauezug]

Originally Posted by express705

if you sold a car on ebay for the wrong price what would you do?

lolll

[Inspired]

lol: not surprised about Indians. I go to this subway around here and he mugs at me when I pay with my credit card. That cheap mofo don't even give napkins sometimes.

[Q4P]

I have a legitimate question. Why is it that when you are leasing a lower end car (Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan) there is never a way to negotiate the purchase price of the car? There is even no dealing on the payments if that's what was advertised. If I go to lease a BMW; I can easily get 4-5K knocked off the sticker price of the car and negotiate payments... in a Honda/Toyota dealership they won't even talk to you about that.

[El_Duderino]

Originally Posted by e90fun

+1 on Indian.

Also, Arabics are hard to work with as well, they always try to offer you money and I work in retail electronics...

Its Arab, not Arabics. Genius.

[Naptime]

Originally Posted by Questforpower

I have a legitimate question. Why is it that when you are leasing a lower end car (Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan) there is never a way to negotiate the purchase price of the car? There is even no dealing on the payments if that's what was advertised. If I go to lease a BMW; I can easily get 4-5K knocked off the sticker price of the car and negotiate payments... in a Honda/Toyota dealership they won't even talk to you about that.

Honda's and Toyota's typically are lower margin cars and compete in a tougher automotive segment that premiums such as BMW and Mercedes. I would imagine alot of profit is stripped from the econoboxes before you walk in the door as opposed to premium brands that have a larger profit built in based on the customer base they are catering to.

I've seen alot of dealers moving to the "one simple price" model which applies both manufacturer and dealer discounts up front to give the illusion of no haggle pricing, even on premium brands.

[Spool]

Originally Posted by Questforpower

I have a legitimate question. Why is it that when you are leasing a lower end car (Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan) there is never a way to negotiate the purchase price of the car? There is even no dealing on the payments if that's what was advertised. If I go to lease a BMW; I can easily get 4-5K knocked off the sticker price of the car and negotiate payments... in a Honda/Toyota dealership they won't even talk to you about that.

not sure where you go, but at my dealership, people have successfully gotten 2-3K off the MSRP...leasing is same as buying a car, u negotiate on the price of the car and then lease, toyotas resell very well so the residual is good for leasing, you pay lower monthly payments

[HungHingHK]

I just want to know why Indians are always pissed at the world. Never smile, shitty attitude for no reason, and generally gives off this snobby sense of worthiness that just feels like a defense mechanism. Im mainly talking about the ones at gas stations and stuff. Every time I deal with one, I feel like I just kicked his dog or some shit afterwards.

Is it just a culture thing or it's because they are looked down upon by other Asian races?

just always wondered

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by HungHingHK

I just want to know why Indians are always pissed at the world. Never smile, shitty attitude for no reason, and generally gives off this snobby sense of worthiness that just feels like a defense mechanism. Im mainly talking about the ones at gas stations and stuff. Every time I deal with one, I feel like I just kicked his dog or some shit afterwards.

Is it just a culture thing or it's because they are looked down upon by other Asian races?

just always wondered

nah man that's koreans...Indians are coo