[Lifted07Duramax]

Id take the ATSV if it does come with that 3.6 TT

[See5]

Originally Posted by txagBMW

Starting to think about cars again since my 335 goes out of warranty
next years. Swore would not get another GM because of the bailout
mess. (Never say Never) but only reason there is a dealer in town
and Bmw is an hour away.

So went and Test drove a ATS and a CTS wagon. I was not impressed
with either car. The ATS felt exactly like the 2010 Rx350 traded on the
335. I did not like the torque steer or the rear blind spots. ATS was
almost a copy of the RX. Quality wise felt Cadillac was still below Lexus.

On the CTS sport Wagon, was rear drive a plus. Just did not say
Cadillac. Have found out not going to be a 2014 CTS Wagon so
Caddy is out of the running. Remember the Big Caddy of years pass,
the luxury car to have, not now. Motor had a very high pitch V6 sound.

Its down to X3 X5 or a Range Rover

You drove an SRX, not ATS. They have no almost relation besides being made by Cadillac and having a 3.6 V6.

[See5]

Originally Posted by Lifted07Duramax

Id take the ATSV if it does come with that 3.6 TT

Its either that or the new LT1. I'd bet on the 3.6 TT.

[Lifted07Duramax]

Originally Posted by See5

Its either that or the new LT1. I'd bet on the 3.6 TT.

I would too, highly doubt they put a V8 like that in a heavy car. Gas mileage would be way worse than the Vette

[ragingclue]

That's a sharp looking car.

[See5]

Originally Posted by Lifted07Duramax

I would too, highly doubt they put a V8 like that in a heavy car. Gas mileage would be way worse than the Vette

It's not heavy though...

[quagmire]

Originally Posted by Lifted07Duramax

I would too, highly doubt they put a V8 like that in a heavy car. Gas mileage would be way worse than the Vette

The ATS weighs less than the 3 series.

[secretsquirrel]

Originally Posted by See5

It's not heavy though...

Yep, newer LS engines weigh less than the N54

[quagmire]

Originally Posted by secretsquirrel

Yep, newer LS engines weigh less than the N54

The LT1 is 30 lb. heavier than the LS3.

Though with it making about 470 HP, I'm kinda sad it won't be going into the ATS-V. Unless the ATS-V's version of the TT 3.6 V6 makes significantly more than 420 HP, would rather have the LT1 in the ATS-V. Can't imagine the fuel economy being that much better with the TT 3.6 vs the LT1( since the LT1 uses about 12-18% less fuel than the LS3).

http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/foru...d.php?t=168801

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by txagBMW

Starting to think about cars again since my 335 goes out of warranty
next years. Swore would not get another GM because of the bailout
mess. (Never say Never) but only reason there is a dealer in town
and Bmw is an hour away.

So went and Test drove a ATS and a CTS wagon. I was not impressed
with either car. The ATS felt exactly like the 2010 Rx350 traded on the
335. I did not like the torque steer or the rear blind spots. ATS was
almost a copy of the RX. Quality wise felt Cadillac was still below Lexus.

On the CTS sport Wagon, was rear drive a plus. Just did not say
Cadillac. Have found out not going to be a 2014 CTS Wagon so
Caddy is out of the running. Remember the Big Caddy of years pass,
the luxury car to have, not now. Motor had a very high pitch V6 sound.

Its down to X3 X5 or a Range Rover

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Is it possible that when you say ATS you really mean SRX? The ATS is a rwd sedan and would not have torque steer. It does come with available awd, but it really shouldn't have noticeable torque steer in that setup either.

Originally Posted by txagBMW

The suv version. This vehicle did not have awd. The sales rep did say
that torque was noticeable but would be lessened with awd, Getting
back in my 3 felt there was no comparing it to cadillac

I do no think you mean what you think you mean.

[Red Bread]

Awesome! Inconthievable.