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      07-20-2019, 12:23 AM   #947
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Nice. Hammer curls will hit the brachioradialis dead on. Do you incorporate forearms movements at all? One of the new moves I use to do back in the day but haven't done in quite a few years are the spider curls
I did reverse spider curls as well as a pronated hammer curl. I have a calve and forearm day as part of my split as well.
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question. what do you guys think puts more emphasis on the front shoulders when doing front raises? for example with the barbell is it best to have a shoulder width grip...wide grip or close grip? same thing with dumbbells? wide, narrow, shoulder width and hand placement. thumbs up or palm down at the top of the movement? I've always tried several ways but never found which one is best...anyone? Bueller?

I approach any shoulder exercise whether it be press or raise/lateral with a parallel grip if using a barbell. It's been shown to the safest and most stable position to be in, and actually sets you up best for injury prevention as you are at your strongest.

And where you are at your strongest.....that's where you can recruit the mist fibers!

If you study the way muscle groups work, it's typically for moving along a certain plane of motion. I've never been a big believer in hand placement affecting certain "areas" better except for compound muscle groups.....especially something like back.

Of course small tweaks in grip position will stress certain areas slightly more.....I feel genetics still dictate muscle shape.
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No way I can effect any muscles shape by steady application of fat to it
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No way I can effect any muscles shape by steady application of fat to it
Round is a shape
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No way I can effect any muscles shape by steady application of fat to it

That used to piss me off to no end....people thinking they are going to change the shape of a muscle. You can only enhance what you have......and create the illusion that something has changed.
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Did 325 for slow and low sets of 4 on squat, ham and back tight but okay.
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      07-21-2019, 05:18 PM   #955
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just wear a schmedium! always works for me!
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I'm at IKEA right now and this guy has the calves the size of 1 gallon milk jugs! Crazy part is the rest of his body doesn't match. How do you get calves bigger than your arms? Genetics?
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Partially or job that uses them continuously or he was fat before
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I'm at IKEA right now and this guy has the calves the size of 1 gallon milk jugs! Crazy part is the rest of his body doesn't match. How do you get calves bigger than your arms? Genetics?
My calves are definitely larger than my arms, I would say this is fairly common for the majority of athletes (or former athletes like myself)
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Just killed shoulders!
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I'm calling bs if you kill every workout then they are just your average.
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I'm calling bs if you kill every workout then they are just your average.
DUDE! C4 is what makes me kill it! I go into every workout with a purpose...to obliterate my muscles. If not, than what's the point

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Post meal workout. Jasmine rice, marinated steak, onions, garlic, mushrooms in oyster sauce
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DUDE! C4 is what makes me kill it! I go into every workout with a purpose...to obliterate my muscles. If not, than what's the point

Yeah that's rookie stuff I take it to help me sleep now
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Boys I haven't put on a single pound since March. Now working from 6am-8pm 6 days/week. I'm still lifting but there's really no point as I don't have time to eat.

Considering mass gainer....legit or nah? I'm not trying to eat a bunch of sugar and look big but chubby.
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Get your protein and calories how you have to.
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Boys I haven't put on a single pound since March. Now working from 6am-8pm 6 days/week. I'm still lifting but there's really no point as I don't have time to eat.

Considering mass gainer....legit or nah? I'm not trying to eat a bunch of sugar and look big but chubby.
Elaborate on "don't have time to eat". I understand the long work hours, but can't you eat throughout the day? Get a large cooler, prep some meals for the entire day. Whatever day you're off you can make your meals shouldnt take long. I made 12 meals (bbq chicken w/ pineapple and Italian chicken both with rice and broccoli) in an hour flat including packing them up and clean up. Supplement high protein snacks in between.

Not against the mass gainer, but theyre big time over priced and usually filled with random shit. Better to get your calories through conventional means in my opinion.
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Boys I haven't put on a single pound since March. Now working from 6am-8pm 6 days/week. I'm still lifting but there's really no point as I don't have time to eat.

Considering mass gainer....legit or nah? I'm not trying to eat a bunch of sugar and look big but chubby.
I will tell you what I tell everyone. When people want to gain or lose weight, they always overestimate what they are taking in. I have had people tell me they can't drop weight and are barely eating. I have them keep a log for just two weeks, and they see how much they are really overeating.

Same thing goes for gaining weight. I've had people tell me they can't gain for any reason, and they are eating 3K-4K calories a day. I ask for the same two week log and most are barely eating 2500.

As for it being quality weight. You have to know what your body is burning. Start keeping that log. If you haven't gained or lost in that two week time frame, take and find your daily average. Then you just add enough calories to spark some growth. Even as little as 200 calories a day extra can work.

With me.....3600-3700 calories a day is my homeostasis point. I stay the same weight. If I want to gain, I add 200-300 calories per day and watch the scale and adjust if needed.

Same with dieting, I drop 200 calories a day and "ride" it until progress stops and then drop another 200 calories per day.

Right now I am coming up on the last 12 days of my diet for the beach. This week I made my final drop to 3K calories per day. Since I started, I'm down 13-14 lbs.

But to end a long post...if you are trying to gain...take in some calorie dense foods. 150 grams of rice is close to 460 calories. One of my meals is 400 grams of chicken, 150 grams of Jasmine Rice, and 100 grams of broccoli done in a "stir-fry" style. That's around 900 calories in that one meal alone.

Takes me maybe 30 minutes to prep and cook it. But do as JP10 stated and cook a lot at one time on an off day, then portion the food out and eat it throughout the day.

It's not easy or fun unless you are demented like some of us, but we do what we have to do!
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